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Re: **********November Low Content**************

every day game i play in:

raise UTG AA23, 3 spades. guy to my left 3 bets, 2 cold calls, blinds call. i cap. all call, six way action.

flop (24 SBs): 765, two diamonds. i bet, guy to my left raies, nobody folds, i 3 bet. all call.

turn(21 BBs): Ace. i bet, guy to my left raises, next guy calls, 3 folds, i 3 bet, guy to my left caps, we both call.

river(33 BBs): 7. i bet, both call. 36 BB total

guy to my left had 23KQ and gets quarter, guy calling down the whole way mucks, i show AA23 for 3/4.

and i STILL lost this session. (although i admit i played terribly for the rest of the session)

Re: **********November Low Content**************

Dave is the best. He always has the best hand, and never gets lucky.

PokerStars Game #13059503610: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/05 - 15:28:38 (ET)
Table 'Monoceros' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 ($294.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 ($171.95 in chips)
Seat 3: jas21 ($132.30 in chips)
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe ($109.35 in chips)
Seat 5: namdeerf ($312.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Pikas ($118.15 in chips)
Seat 7: davebreal ($483.20 in chips)
Seat 8: magicmike ($382.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ylv2 ($400.50 in chips)
Exit4afilm2: posts small blind $2
jas21: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [Ad 2d Td Ah]
FearMeLoveMe: folds
namdeerf: folds
Pikas: folds
davebreal: raises $8 to $12
magicmike: calls $12
ylv2: folds
SKIPJACK2: folds
Exit4afilm2: folds
jas21: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5d 6h]
jas21: checks
davebreal: bets $36.10
magicmike: calls $36.10
jas21: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 5d 6h] [Ks]
davebreal: bets $107.20
magicmike: calls $107.20
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5d 6h Ks] [5h]
davebreal: bets $321.60
magicmike: calls $227.60 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal: shows [Jc Js 2c As] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives)
magicmike: mucks hand
davebreal collected $776.80 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $779.80 | Rake $3
Board [Jd 5d 6h Ks 5h]
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: jas21 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: namdeerf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pikas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: davebreal showed [Jc Js 2c As] and won ($776.80) with HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives
Seat 8: magicmike mucked [Ad 2d Td Ah]
Seat 9: ylv2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Re: **********November Low Content**************

If you want to see something besides NLHE on TV, turn to ESPN2 now.

Re: **********November Low Content**************

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Dave is the best. He always has the best hand, and never gets lucky.

PokerStars Game #13059503610: Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/11/05 - 15:28:38 (ET)
Table 'Monoceros' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 ($294.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 ($171.95 in chips)
Seat 3: jas21 ($132.30 in chips)
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe ($109.35 in chips)
Seat 5: namdeerf ($312.95 in chips)
Seat 6: Pikas ($118.15 in chips)
Seat 7: davebreal ($483.20 in chips)
Seat 8: magicmike ($382.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ylv2 ($400.50 in chips)
Exit4afilm2: posts small blind $2
jas21: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magicmike [Ad 2d Td Ah]
FearMeLoveMe: folds
namdeerf: folds
Pikas: folds
davebreal: raises $8 to $12
magicmike: calls $12
ylv2: folds
SKIPJACK2: folds
Exit4afilm2: folds
jas21: calls $8
*** FLOP *** [Jd 5d 6h]
jas21: checks
davebreal: bets $36.10
magicmike: calls $36.10
jas21: folds
*** TURN *** [Jd 5d 6h] [Ks]
davebreal: bets $107.20
magicmike: calls $107.20
*** RIVER *** [Jd 5d 6h Ks] [5h]
davebreal: bets $321.60
magicmike: calls $227.60 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
davebreal: shows [Jc Js 2c As] (HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives)
magicmike: mucks hand
davebreal collected $776.80 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $779.80 | Rake $3
Board [Jd 5d 6h Ks 5h]
Seat 1: SKIPJACK2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Exit4afilm2 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: jas21 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: FearMeLoveMe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: namdeerf folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Pikas folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: davebreal showed [Jc Js 2c As] and won ($776.80) with HI: a full house, Jacks full of Fives
Seat 8: magicmike mucked [Ad 2d Td Ah]
Seat 9: ylv2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Please 'splain river call.

Re: **********November Low Content**************

Please splain turn flat call too.

Re: **********November Low Content**************

Me and Dave have a long history, and frankly can't stand eachother. When I am in a pot with him, I tend to play differently, and string him along for the ride. The flop was great for my hand, with the overpair, nut flush draw, and nut low draw. The turn card, while not improving my hand, did not scare my hand at all. You could make a case for moving in here, but at this point, I'm not folding no matter what the river is; i'm pot commited. With his preflop raise, he could easily be betting a busted low draw, or even have the same hand, aces and fives.

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and string him along for the ride

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LMAO, it's people like you that make this game profitable.

my PTO is busted but I think I had you running at -0.5bb for 2007 over 5000+ hands, most likely the same for '06. consider yourself priveleged to play with someone as good as me, maybe i'll let you kiss my shoe or something.

Re: **********November Low Content**************

last night's session was lots of fun, i took a massive beating. sets can never beat 2 pair.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($655.70)
Button ($1302.55)
Hero ($992)
BB ($771.60)
UTG ($448.60)
MP ($499.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $18, Button calls $18, Hero calls $15, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($72) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $35, Button calls $35, Hero raises to $209, BB folds, CO calls $174, Button folds.

Turn: ($525) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $522, CO calls $428.70 (All-In).

River: ($1382.40) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1382.40

Results in white below: 
CO has 4c 5h 2c Qc (High: full house, queens full of twos).
Hero has Ts Kh 9c 9h (High: full house, nines full of queens).
Outcome: CO wins $1382.40. Hero wins $93.30. 

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $6 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($140.20)
BB ($1929.75)
Hero ($550.20)
MP ($86.35)
Button ($1013.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero raises to $18, MP calls $18, 1 fold, SB calls $15, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($72) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $70, MP calls $68.35 (All-In), SB calls $70, BB raises to $418.35, Hero raises to $532.2, SB calls $52.20 (All-In), BB calls $113.85.

Turn: ($506.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($506.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $1326.95

Results in white below: 
SB has 9s 3h 2s 5d (Low: 8, 5, 3, 2, A | High: two pair, tens and threes).
BB has 4d Ac 9h 5h (Low: 8, 5, 4, 3, A | High: flush, ace high).
Hero has 8s 8c 3d 2c (High: full house, eights full of tens).
MP has 3s Ts Ad 6d (High: full house, tens full of aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $490.77. BB wins $410. SB wins $253.47. MP wins $172.70.

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$15/$30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG yuanyuan ($1041.00)
UTG+1 kanattack ($1830.00)
MP1 rutasasha ($1324.00)
MP2 sheckler ($2004.50)
CO Squirrely1 ($1125.50)
BTN SittingBull ($1203.50)
SB mrb513 ($1092.00)
BB Hero ($945.00)

Pre-flop: ($45, 8 players) Hero is BB Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, Squirrely1 raises to $60, 2 folds, Hero calls $30

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($135, 2 players)
Hero bets $30, Squirrely1 raises to $60, Hero calls $30

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
Hero checks, Squirrely1 bets $60, Hero raises to $120, Squirrely1 calls $60

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($495, 2 players)
Hero bets $60, Squirrely1 raises to $120, Hero raises to $180, Squirrely1 raises to $240, Hero calls $60

Final Pot: $975
Hero shows: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Squirrely1 shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Squirrely1 wins $972 ( won +$492 )
Hero lost -$480.00

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$15/$30 Limit Omaha Hi/Lo
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG yuanyuan ($1041.00)
UTG+1 kanattack ($1830.00)
MP1 rutasasha ($1324.00)
MP2 sheckler ($2004.50)
CO Squirrely1 ($1125.50)
BTN SittingBull ($1203.50)
SB mrb513 ($1092.00)
BB Hero ($945.00)

Pre-flop: ($45, 8 players) Hero is BB Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, Squirrely1 raises to $60, 2 folds, Hero calls $30

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($135, 2 players)
Hero bets $30, Squirrely1 raises to $60, Hero calls $30

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
Hero checks, Squirrely1 bets $60, Hero raises to $120, Squirrely1 calls $60

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($495, 2 players)
Hero bets $60, Squirrely1 raises to $120, Hero raises to $180, Squirrely1 raises to $240, Hero calls $60

Final Pot: $975
Hero shows: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Squirrely1 shows: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Squirrely1 wins $972 ( won +$492 )
Hero lost -$480.00

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this is extremely typical play for this level on both Stars and FTP, common sense never prevails in these games. fortunately it does make the game very profitable, the only thing to do is make notes on the maniacs and steer clear of the nut peddlers.