2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
Villain is a donk. He's 40/4/.5 but he has been much more aggro on the turn and river than his TAF stat indicates. He is on my left and has been firing a ton on turns and river forcing me to lay marginal hands down. Making really weird bet sizes, sometimes very small and sometimes huge overbets.
Looking for comments/advice on my river raise and what to do now. I raised to get value out of a smaller A or smaller 2 pair when he blocks the river. He instashoves AI on me. Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $612.90 BB: $635.20 UTG: $484.40 MP: $306.90 CO: $840.10 Hero (BTN): $699.80 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $14.00, SB calls $12.00, BB folds Flop: ($46) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, SB calls $36.00, UTG folds Turn: ($118) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $100.00</font>, SB calls $100.00 River: ($318) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $68.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $144.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $462.90</font> |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
Don't raise river.
He's got the flush |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
given how passive his stats is i dont see how you can call the river 3bet. I probably just call the river bet.
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Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
def dont think you are good 25%.
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Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
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given how passive his stats is i dont see how you can call the river 3bet. I probably just call the river bet. [/ QUOTE ] i said his postflop AF stats aren't that passive. turn af: 2 river af: 9 only 100 hands tho but his PF AF and flop AF brought his TAF way down. |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
I'd raise more on river I think to like $200, and I'd fold to that 3bet.
You could also make a case for calling the river, especially if you aren't sure how to respond if he shoves over a raise. If I raised it would be to fold to a shove, or call if I thought he was really aggro (but still, he can't really be bluffing here can he?). I like the river raise though, but fold now. |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
why would u raise river
fold as played |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
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why would u raise river fold as played [/ QUOTE ] heh, not one of my smarter moments. luckily i was a bit too tilted vs him to fold...notice i said luckily. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
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why would u raise river fold as played [/ QUOTE ] Well he bet 20% of the pot, so I think that we can raise due to his blocking bet and expect to get called a lot by worse. If he bet much bigger I agree it would lean towards a definite call. But I don't agree if you're saying this guy is more likely to have a flush than say a worse two pair or something. |
Re: 2 pair facing bet/3bet line vs donk. WTF??
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[ QUOTE ] why would u raise river fold as played [/ QUOTE ] Well he bet 20% of the pot, so I think that we can raise due to his blocking bet and expect to get called a lot by worse. If he bet much bigger I agree it would lean towards a definite call. But I don't agree if you're saying this guy is more likely to have a flush than say a worse two pair or something. [/ QUOTE ] while i kind of agree w/ this...i mean it is the reason why i raised the river. villain seemed to be bluffing a ton on the turn and river. he either was getting hit in the face w/ the deck or was bluffing alot. i had no idea how capable he was of 3 bet bluffing the river until this hand and given his propensity to bluff i probably shouldn't have raised it. BTW...he had KK |
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