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Heisenb3rg 09-05-2007 06:15 PM

10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
Villain is a 2+2er , used to think he spewed a lot.. but my perception has changed fairly significantly in the past few motnhs.

Is the river raise too much?
What SHOULD be each of our thoguht process on the other guys range up to this point of the hand?

I am capable of capping pair + diamond + straight draw in some situations (maybe not this).

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (11BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font> ...

Scary_Tiger 09-05-2007 06:45 PM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
I think it's fine.

milesdyson 09-05-2007 07:21 PM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
"What SHOULD be each of our thoguht process on the other guys range up to this point of the hand?"

sb's preflop raise: you think "lol"
your preflop call: sb thinks "lol"
sb's flop bet: you think "lol"
your flop call: sb thinks "lol"
sb's turn bet: you think "lol"
your turn raise: sb thinks "he probably doesn't have a flush because he didn't raise the flop. he could have Jx, 9x, QT, T7, ace or king of diamonds, and maybe just a ten"
sb's turn 3-bet: you think "it is not terribly likely for him to be pure bluffing because there is a good chance i have a good hand like Jx or a straight or two pair. he probably has KJ+, a set, a flush, two pair, or a straight."
your turn cap: sb thinks "ok he has to be for real. he has a straight with QT/T7 or a flush."
sb's river bet: you think "he doesn't care that i have T7 minimum. his river bet is weird because he should mostly check after i cap the turn. maybe he is afraid i'm going to check something behind on the ace for some reason. he is wrong though, so i am confused. maybe he has AdA."

i think you should call the river bet. i don't think he should bet the river usually.

The Funky Llama 09-05-2007 07:50 PM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
call the river

CardSharpCook 09-05-2007 08:00 PM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
riase the river. Are you aware that you have 5 cards of the same suit? AND that two of them are in your hand?

DeathDonkey 09-05-2007 08:22 PM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
call the river

[/ QUOTE ]

Definitely. This is a spew. He saved you a bet by not going for a river CR.

-DeathDonkey

vmacosta 09-05-2007 11:01 PM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
Yeah, his range includes about 25 different flushes. All of them make sense til the river. A lot of them bet the river either hoping to 3-bet or not wanting to get 3-bet.

I don't see him showing up with enough sets/str8s to beat that range, let alone be the significant fav you need to be to raise.

Bluffman 09-06-2007 02:11 AM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
in LHE it really doesn't matter what you do when you have a 5 card hand.

seriously.

Heisenb3rg 09-06-2007 03:34 AM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
[ QUOTE ]
in LHE it really doesn't matter what you do when you have a 5 card hand.

seriously.

[/ QUOTE ]

wha?? plz to be explaining. this is either extremly deep or makes no sense at all :P

Alobar 09-06-2007 03:37 AM

Re: 10/20 - 25s - Baby flush, blind battle. River raise?
 
edit: bah, n/m....I suck at teh counting


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