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Chargers In 07 11-25-2007 03:38 PM

$50: 87s RR pot flops decent
 
Villain is 23/3 over a few hundred hands. I've been stealing blinds a ton at this table but I still give him a range of QQ+. Given this range should I push or call and fold turn UI?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($10.90)
Hero ($54.75)
SB ($49.45)
BB ($47.45)
UTG ($26)
MP1 ($8.50)
MP2 ($9.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($10.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $9</font>, Hero

Berge20 11-25-2007 04:10 PM

Re: $50: 87s RR pot flops decent
 
Assuming he only has at best, one pair at the moment:
You need: 6, 7, 8, J - That's 13 outs

However: JJ isn't entirely out of the relm of possiblity (making 7 trouble), QQ is definately in the range, making J trouble. It's possible he has AcKc/AcQc to some degree, making your club cards trouble.

I think you are staring reverse implied odds smack in the face on this one, but I think his range is weighted heavier toward AA/KK than the others. You could peel and see what he does on the turn, as you have position and can potentially pick up a spade draw.

SABR42 11-25-2007 04:13 PM

Re: $50: 87s RR pot flops decent
 
Either fold or shove.

Calling is bad since your implied odds aren't very good.

Brimstead 11-25-2007 04:23 PM

Re: $50: 87s RR pot flops decent
 
i definitely wouldn't call.... in button v blind battle why do you give him credit for a big pair? He could have a big A. i think i would shove, but then, i love to gamble in these spots, gives me butterflies in ma belly eh [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Chargers In 07 11-25-2007 04:57 PM

Re: $50: 87s RR pot flops decent
 
[ QUOTE ]
i definitely wouldn't call.... in button v blind battle why do you give him credit for a big pair?

[/ QUOTE ]I gave him only a big pair because he only raises 3% of his hands and I think his 3 betting % is even lower.

I thought calling was very bad as SABR said because my outs are not disguised at all but he may very well commit himself on the turn when I hit. If he has JJ/QQ then I lose 3 and 4 outs respectively. Folding never crossed my mind. During the hand I thought against QQ+ I had ~48% equity and it's only 41.5% equity so I shoved.


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