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_TKO_ 03-27-2007 07:04 AM

100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
Villian is 53/4/1.8. The only hand I've seen him play was where he called down with a straight draw and bluff-raised the river AI.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $128.30
UTG+1: $40
CO: $92.95
Hero: $97
SB: $100.50
BB: $331.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($26.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $80.45</font>, Hero ...

mbillie1 03-27-2007 07:06 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
53 VPIP = call

Edit... what sample size on villain? 53/4/1.8? I mean if he's a monkey I'm calling, I think some sort of stupid combo draw is likely, I doubt he's floating with 88 or some crap there... what exactly are you guys putting him on?

pdoran10 03-27-2007 07:06 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
good never here. AF 1.8 isnt check raising the turn with any hand we beat.

scratch that, like almost nobody is CRAI the turn on this board with a hand we beat.

Rainclouds 03-27-2007 08:20 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
Nah, really bad players do this check-raise even with QT/QJ, "because opponent raised so he must have AK". A call against this type of player is good, especially given your read.

shpanko 03-27-2007 08:46 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
I think this is a pretty standard call tbh. Especially if you have a read that he bluffs AI

manlyman 03-27-2007 09:34 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
I call this. 1.8AF is pretty aggro when youre a 53/4.

binions 03-27-2007 09:42 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian is 53/4/1.8. The only hand I've seen him play was where he called down with a straight draw and bluff-raised the river AI.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $128.30
UTG+1: $40
CO: $92.95
Hero: $97
SB: $100.50
BB: $331.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($26.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $80.45</font>, Hero ...

[/ QUOTE ]

Calling 58 to win a total pot of 185. You need 31% equity against his range, which would include:

12 sets - 0%
~16 2 pair hands (maybe more) - 16%
~20 flush draws (maybe more) - 65%
~10 combo draws - ~50%
~8 worse queens - 94%
9 over pairs - 4-10%

I think you have about ~35% equity here, making it a close call.

If there was only 1 flush draw on board, it'd be a close fold IMO.

mdkrahn 03-27-2007 09:49 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
I think the fact that you've seen him bluff raise allin before, makes this a pretty easy call....

I dunno though, I may be overextending these reads.

wslee00 03-27-2007 10:21 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
[ QUOTE ]
The only hand I've seen him play was where he called down with a straight draw and bluff-raised the river AI.

[/ QUOTE ]
CALL

ronmacdonald 03-27-2007 10:37 AM

Re: 100NL, AQ TPTK faces turn CRAI
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Villian is 53/4/1.8. The only hand I've seen him play was where he called down with a straight draw and bluff-raised the river AI.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $128.30
UTG+1: $40
CO: $92.95
Hero: $97
SB: $100.50
BB: $331.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($10.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($26.5, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $22</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $80.45</font>, Hero ...

[/ QUOTE ]

Calling 58 to win a total pot of 185. You need 31% equity against his range, which would include:

12 sets - 0%
~16 2 pair hands (maybe more) - 16%
~20 flush draws (maybe more) - 65%
~10 combo draws - ~50%
~8 worse queens - 94%
9 over pairs - 4-10%

I think you have about ~35% equity here, making it a close call.

If there was only 1 flush draw on board, it'd be a close fold IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]35% equity against that range but whern you factor in he could be reraising with air its a clear call


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