16$ : Push with 44
 

SNGWiz say it's a push with 88+ here.
I don't understand "intuitively" why.
And with blind 200/400 it's a push with 77+. I have a lot of FE, haven't I ?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB (t3115)
BB (t2365)
UTG (t2385)
MP (t3530)
Hero (t2105)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2080</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls t1880.

Flop: (t4260) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t4260) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t4260) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t4260

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

FE here depends on MP and what his limping range is I guess. If he's been limp folding a lot than I would certainly push over the top and take down 3.5 bb already in pot. otherwise i'd fold.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

I like it more if you were on BB. Here, it's close.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

As described in Colin Moshman's book: Find out who the "High-Blind-Limpers" are and make moves like this against them, if you have seen him folding alot to raises.

Otherwise easy fold.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

if hes limping weakly a lot, do it up. if hes not, fold.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

I'm almost done with Moshman and I am not sure he really recommends pushing 10+ BB over a HBL without a solid read. In other words, make sure the HBL is really an HBL.

You can also cut the last half of your HH off - not relevant to your decision, really, that the flop came low (didn't hit AK/AQ/KQ) and that you didn't improve.

I think he calls a ton with hands that beat you and there's no real reason to go to war with a low PP at this time. I like this a ton if he folds, though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

Most people who limp like this are retarded, and then a push is usually correct. Kinda opponent related tho.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

easy fold.
I openpush 77 here so i wont push a limper with worse than 77 either.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

vs some limpers, there is EXTRA value in shoving behind their limps, or at least, I'm pretty damn convinced there is.

Also, 77+ seems awfully tight.

Re: 16$ : Push with 44
 

This is an automatic fold for me, also if I've seen him limping before. It might be an ok push with a very strong read though, but you have that very seldom. I like the 77+ range, maybe even tighter. Patience is important, and you have more than 10 BB's.