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selurah 10-18-2007 12:30 AM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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I have a proposition. Let's refer to Phil Hellmuth as Phil Hellmuth rather than "Brat."

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Who cares either way? Is OP insulting your idol or something?

gboro 10-18-2007 04:39 AM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
loool. i like how a lot of players will take back their river bet when they have the best hand at showdown but phil just reaches over and grab's eric's.

Eponymous 10-18-2007 07:35 PM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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I have a proposition. Let's refer to Phil Hellmuth as Phil Hellmuth rather than "Brat."

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http://z.about.com/d/poker/1/7/5/7/p...atandproud.JPG

yellowjack 10-18-2007 08:34 PM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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[ QUOTE ]
I have a proposition. Let's refer to Phil Hellmuth as Phil Hellmuth rather than "Brat."

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http://z.about.com/d/poker/1/7/5/7/p...atandproud.JPG

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its still retarded

SDone 10-19-2007 04:12 AM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OUmfuuS27...ed&search=

He bets the flop smaller than his original raise?

And then calls the river?!?!

Veil 10-19-2007 07:00 AM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=OUmfuuS27...ed&search=

He bets the flop smaller than his original raise?

And then calls the river?!?!

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The bet was designed to get Erik to raise on a bluff or a lesser hand. And would you look at that, it worked.

The river was a crying call.

SDone 10-19-2007 07:08 AM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=OUmfuuS27...ed&search=

He bets the flop smaller than his original raise?

And then calls the river?!?!

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The bet was designed to get Erik to raise on a bluff or a lesser hand. And would you look at that, it worked.

The river was a crying call.

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Eric's not gonna bluff there. If he though Eric had made a hand, he should have just put out a strong cb. And what can he beat on the river?

Foghatlive 10-19-2007 05:00 PM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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- This one, which was weird. Just as I was rubbing my hands expecting Seidel to take a big chunk out of Hellmuth, he waited till he was beat and then bet.


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Eric knows Phil plays primarily premium cards. With no King on the board, there was at least a pretty good chance Phil was holding one. If it's the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Eric is effed. So, checking to the river, IMO, wasn't a bad play. My guess is that the bet river was a blocking bet to keep Phil from going all-in.

In the end, it worked out well for Eric, as he could've lost a lot more in the hand. He doesn't have all those bracelets for nothing.

iplayscared 10-22-2007 08:07 PM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
i think he butchered the hand imo

ZingyDNA 10-26-2007 01:30 PM

Re: Eric Seidel\'s AQ vs. Brat\'s KK (PAD)
 
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- This one, which was weird. Just as I was rubbing my hands expecting Seidel to take a big chunk out of Hellmuth, he waited till he was beat and then bet.


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Eric knows Phil plays primarily premium cards. With no King on the board, there was at least a pretty good chance Phil was holding one. If it's the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Eric is effed. So, checking to the river, IMO, wasn't a bad play. My guess is that the bet river was a blocking bet to keep Phil from going all-in.

In the end, it worked out well for Eric, as he could've lost a lot more in the hand. He doesn't have all those bracelets for nothing.

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So you're basicly saying Seidel doesn't bet the flop and the turn because he knows Hellmuth will outdraw him on the river with pretty much exactly the K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]? That's so result oriented and doesn't make sense.


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