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Burnsabre 09-27-2007 04:20 PM

AKs river overcall
 
5 handed
Not much of a read on either Villain, HJ has played 8 of his first 10 hands, slightly aggro but not too much. SB is 43/0/.6 only over 16 hands.

Hero opens A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] utg, HJ calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

check, hero bets, 2 calls.

Turn: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
check, hero bets, call, SB raises, both call.

River: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Sb checks, hero checks, HJ bets, SB calls, hero getting 13:1?

mute 09-27-2007 04:26 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
You were behind on the turn. Now you're even further behind.

KitCloudkicker 09-27-2007 04:28 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
fold.

numbnuts007 09-27-2007 04:50 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
I don't mind a call here at all. 13 to 1 with tptk and some slightly confusing action. I'd like to hear some arguments for a fold though. It's trouble taking sb's read with only 16 hands, he's basically an unknown.

hustalasta 09-27-2007 04:55 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
Without good reads on what SB will check raise I'm calling 1 bet (though it's likely he has 2 pair or better you will sometimes find them check raising a weaker K) I think HJ is definately capable of betting this river with a bluff or a lower pair.

Getting 13:1 I'm not folding for 1 bet.

billy51 09-27-2007 04:56 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
Isn't there a small chance Hero's hand is good here? I would call here given the great pot odds. You don't need to be good very often for a call to be profitable.

It seems like SB could have easily have a K with a worse kicker, though 2 pair is likely. HJ is to be representing the straight, but he could just be taking a shot at the pot. While you don't have the best hand often, it seems like you win often enough to make this call.

mute 09-27-2007 05:11 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
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Isn't there a small chance Hero's hand is good here? I would call here given the great pot odds. You don't need to be good very often for a call to be profitable.

It seems like SB could have easily have a K with a worse kicker, though 2 pair is likely. HJ is to be representing the straight, but he could just be taking a shot at the pot. While you don't have the best hand often, it seems like you win often enough to make this call.

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I think the scenario you describe happens no more than 2-3% of the time (ofcourse I have no way of really knowing this, but I do think, that it happens way less than 7%).

milesdyson 09-27-2007 05:37 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
agree with mute. sb has you beaten on the turn a lot with twopair+ and he got scared of teh river. hijack's bet there is so crazy with less than one pair. you're crushed. there's only one king left for hijack to have............

Burnsabre 09-27-2007 06:52 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
aight, just a reality check, been folding alot of river winners. SB had AK, HJ had K4o (?!?). So I had HJ drawin to 3 outs, on a freeroll with, and somehow managed to donate half the pot.

milesdyson 09-27-2007 10:42 PM

Re: AKs river overcall
 
shows how ridiculous everything has to be for you to actually fold a winner.

SB's preflop play is laughable. most players who do that preflop will then DONK the turn when they hit the K.

HJ coldcalls preflop with K4o. he calls a J87 flop (lol). he then calls a bet and pot protected c/r with basically no hand. then, when he has 0% chance of having the best hand or getting two folds, he bluffs the river.

awesome!


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