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Kasane 07-10-2007 08:47 PM

I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
Opponent seems passive enough, I really hate where all of my decisions leave me on the river.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $50.00
BB: $16.80
Hero (UTG): $55.40
CO: $50.80
BTN: $91.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, CO calls $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $5.50</font>, CO calls $5.50, BTN folds

Turn: ($17.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero ...

ReNoRyan 07-10-2007 09:14 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
bet the turn please.

Kasane 07-10-2007 10:15 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
Why? Nothing I beat will call -- and everything else is now a split. Everything else folds, bluffs or crushes me (least likely this last, but whatever). There's no draw, so "protection" is out as a reason.

Somebody tell me to bet here with a good reason, because that's my first choice usually -- but I'm rethinking some things. I can't really find one. Kx and mid-pairs are going to check unless they're aggro bluff monkeys floating that flop, but my guy is a passive type far as I know. I might get a reluctant call after they do on the river by those hands as well if turn goes chk/chk.

wildzer0 07-10-2007 10:23 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
You say opponent is "passive enough" but that doesn't give us a lot to go on. If I think villain will bet when checked to with a worse hand (most will) then I c/c. If villain is just a passive calling station then I value bet.

homeslice 07-10-2007 10:24 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
If you think this will end in a split pot, you're on a "freeroll", so if you lead, you're repping a full house, so may be able to get him off a hand that is equal to yours.

FutureCarpal 07-11-2007 12:11 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
Isn't AQ, AJ, A10, A9 the biggest part of villain's range? We can't be afraid of the paired eights for the purpose of betting this turn IMO.

Nogatsira 07-11-2007 12:18 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
If you're not gonna bet, then what are you gonna do?
If you plan on just calling his bets then you might just bet yourself right?

He might be holding a king, an ace or QJ, QT, JT and hoping to hit his gutshot, ...

ocdscale 07-11-2007 12:22 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
[ QUOTE ]
If you're not gonna bet, then what are you gonna do?
If you plan on just calling his bets then you might just bet yourself right?


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There is a huge difference between planning on calling villain's bets and betting yourself.

Nogatsira 07-11-2007 12:23 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
[ QUOTE ]
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If you're not gonna bet, then what are you gonna do?
If you plan on just calling his bets then you might just bet yourself right?


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There is a huge difference between planning on calling villain's bets and betting yourself.

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yes with betting you have the chance that he folds a splitpot hand, with just calling not

Chomp 07-11-2007 12:27 PM

Re: I think my villain hit his out to a tie... but I\'m oop -- 50NL
 
[ QUOTE ]
bet the turn please.

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FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OP'S DILEMMA AND PRECISELY WHAT HE IS ASKING ABOUT!!! HOW THE HELL IS YOUR REPLY MEANT TO HELP HIM???? IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST A REPLY, POST A GODAMM REASONING!!!!!!!!

And while we're here, why bet turn? We're chopping at best, right? Or else he doesn't have an A, right? So why not check and let him bet a K/bluff? And what happens if our turn bet is raised? And what worse hands are calling our bet?

Jesus, not only is your 4 word reply useless without explanation, it might also be useless as a piece of strat advice.

Whatever. Christ.

OP - I think I check turn, but I'm really unsure. Gonna think some.


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