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sternroolz 05-29-2007 01:02 PM

New attitude at Bellagio
 
So there have been a few posts about how bad the attitude of the brush at Bellagio is and a more recent post about some shake ups there.

I played two sessions this past weekend. In the past when I played $8-16 there was a guy named Tim and another caucasian guy with a moustache that ran the boards in the evening for the low limit games. Both were pretty rude and discourteous to me on numerous occasions. The moustache guy smiles like never.

This time Tim was on the mid limit games. I went up and put my name on the $15-30 list. Contrary to the past, Tim was extremely nice. I mean, downright charming. I was shocked. He looked around for a seat and seeing that none were open, told me that I was first up. In the most friendly manner possible. Well I tipped a B floorman for the first time. FWIW, the moustache guy was still running the low limits and looked pained and constipated the whole time.

I went back again on Sunday. There was a long $15-30 list, but no tables available. The floor person this time was Danielle(Danette?...floor supervisor). Anyway, she was about one of the nicest casino employees I've ever seen. Really decent. When a table was available and the list was long enough, she made a real strong effort to get the game going right away. Very very good and 3 players at the new game tossed her a red bird for her efforts.

Finally, there has been some stuff written about a floorman named Boba. I didn't not know who he was by name. But I heard his name called and instantly recognized him. He is the only floor at Bellagio that has always treated me politely and respectfully.

Anyway, I'm glad to see the changes in the way Bellagio poker room operates.

Rottersod 05-29-2007 01:22 PM

Re: New attitude at Bellagio
 
That's good to hear and maybe it was a little bit from 2+2ers and posters on other sites that helped get this change. From what I've read here in the past it seems like it was long overdue. I'm a firm believer that if a company wants my business then their employees better treat me with at least a modicum of respect or else I'll simply take my money somewhere's else. Unlike a few posters here I believe that if a casino offers games at a certain limit then they must have a business need for those customers.

Barry 05-29-2007 09:17 PM

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Finally, there has been some stuff written about a floorman named Boba. I didn't not know who he was by name. But I heard his name called and instantly recognized him. He is the only floor at Bellagio that has always treated me politely and respectfully.


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Was Boba working at the B? I haven't been for a bit, but the early rumors indicated that he was one of the casualties of the shakeup. It's good if he's still there.

*TT* 05-29-2007 09:55 PM

Re: New attitude at Bellagio
 
Stern - all the people you mentioned were the good eggs IMHO, the best the Bellagio has to offer. Usually the complaints were not related to them (although we have heard equal praises and complaints about Boba - I personally believe complaints about him are generally unwarranted because he is a fantastic floorman), they were often gripes about the low limit staff. I havent been playing there too much in the past month or two, but when I stop by I have barely noticed a change in service - it seems to be the same quality level as before - but then again I never experienced the complaints that so many others had with the exception of the need to wait at the list for a floor/brush to be available to add my name to the list.

sternroolz 05-30-2007 12:55 PM

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but then again I never experienced the complaints that so many others had with the exception of the need to wait at the list for a floor/brush to be available to add my name to the list.

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At the low limit section it was like that except that when a floor person would come up to the desk they would not look at you, acknowledge you, or anything....and most of the time they would leave the desk again without ever asking if you wanted to be on a list. It was beyond frustrating and difficult to deal with. And then if you returned to check where you were on the list they would again not acknowledge you. And if you tried to peek over the desk at the list to see where you were on the list, often the floor man would swipe it away or gruffly say "hey, what are you doing".

MitchL 05-30-2007 01:17 PM

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but then again I never experienced the complaints that so many others had with the exception of the need to wait at the list for a floor/brush to be available to add my name to the list.

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This has been my experience 100%. When I first started going to Vegas about 5 yrs ago I was treated like sh.it @ the B up until I started playing 15-30 & above and then I was at least aknowledged at the podium.

At the low limit section it was like that except that when a floor person would come up to the desk they would not look at you, acknowledge you, or anything....and most of the time they would leave the desk again without ever asking if you wanted to be on a list. It was beyond frustrating and difficult to deal with. And then if you returned to check where you were on the list they would again not acknowledge you. And if you tried to peek over the desk at the list to see where you were on the list, often the floor man would swipe it away or gruffly say "hey, what are you doing".

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Eponymous 05-30-2007 09:14 PM

Re: New attitude at Bellagio
 
It seems like the best change they could make for a more player-friendly brush area is to have a screen with the games listed like most rooms. I asssume there's a good reason for the secretive clipboards. Can anyone explain why? Even if they lose the attitude, it still seems like a bad way to run a room. It makes it a lot harder to figure out how many games of which type are running, how long the wait for each might be, etc.

bav 05-30-2007 09:24 PM

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A secretive clip board allows them to use other than first-in-first-out to seat people. It's harder to sneak your buddies and the good tippers in first if the whole world is watching the lists.

*TT* 05-30-2007 10:19 PM

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A secretive clip board allows them to use other than first-in-first-out to seat people. It's harder to sneak your buddies and the good tippers in first if the whole world is watching the lists.

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Actually I think the reason is there is no reason to make the investment because bringing traffic is not a concern for the B. Also as many have projected, by 2009 the B will likely be pushed aside as the primary room, replaced by whatever Baldwin and Kerkorian have in store for City Center.

Keep in mind the Borgata has had an video list for years now, and there has been evidence of corruption there as well. A video list doesn't stop favoritism, in some ways it makes it easier to conceal.

aggie 05-30-2007 10:40 PM

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Keep in mind the Borgata has had an video list for years now, and there has been evidence of corruption there as well. A video list doesn't stop favoritism, in some ways it makes it easier to conceal.

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This is definitely and 100% the case at some of the places in vegas.


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