2/4 big draw
 

PFR is 26/8 over 50 hands, minraiser is total unknown

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MP2 ($825.80)
MP3 ($404.95)
CO ($394)
Hero ($390)
SB ($478)
BB ($398)
UTG ($189.90)
UTG+1 ($444.05)
MP1 ($609.25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $8, MP3 calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $8, SB calls $6, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($48) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $28</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $56</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

I think we should assume we're behind a set here. If we generously give ourselves 12 outs, we can call this or even shove . . . but we have to like variance either way.

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

i think i fold

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

agreed, this would be a good spot w/o the reraise but I don't think we should continue here

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

looks pretty but its a fold.

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

hump de bump

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

jam it

as long as you get it HU it's almost impossible to not have reasonable equity, and you have significant FE here.

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

soah

do you like a shove or just a normal 3 bet to like 200?

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

I shove here most of the time.

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

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soah

do you like a shove or just a normal 3 bet to like 200?

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I'd do like 166 or something

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

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soah

do you like a shove or just a normal 3 bet to like 200?

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I'd do like 166 or something

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isn't that a value that induces a call from other big combo draws as well? why isn't 200 a better value for FE,

is it because 166 allows us a stronger shove on a blank turn?

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

what other big combo draws

and who has them?

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

keel yoself. that is all.

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

You have a straight flush out, how could you possibly fold? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
I would shove and think I have reasonably good fold equity 10-20% which is enough for a nice profit. Plus, this will often get to be HU with a bit of extra money in it from the guy who folded to your shove which ups your pot odds.
The issue is that you might end up against a set and a higher flush draw which can't lay down, but that scenario is rare and you have 4 outs even then for prolly 12% equity even then in a three way pot. Hitting the 5s there is BBV gold.

You do want to try to push out mid flush draws which would call if you call here.

LOL at anyone who says fold here.

Re: 2/4 big draw
 

1) Could it please be explained to me what pther big combo draws exist? The board is 6s3x2s, Hero has 4s3s. Unless someone has specifically As5s or As4s, there aren't any big combo draws. 7s5s, maybe. Fairly unlikely.

2) By shoving you can get the pot heads up, and push out hands like mid flush draws which have you scurved.

3) Not really much sense in calling a raise preflop with 43s and then folding to action on THIS board, is there?

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3) Not really much sense in calling a raise preflop with 43s and then folding to action on THIS board, is there?

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Completely agree! That's the flop you're playing that kind of hand for...