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xoom 11-18-2007 11:05 AM

Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: £0.15/£0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: £32.36
UTG+1: £10
Hero: £25.77
Button: £15.53
SB: £44.73
BB: £15.69

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to £1</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (£2.25, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets £1.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to £3.5</font>, Hero calls??

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (£9.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets £6</font>, Hero?

I am really lost in these spots against unknowns. How do you play it?

11-18-2007 02:51 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
opening preflop with 6bb seems a bit high. Kind of looks like a bluff to me ... The way you played it I would probably call and reevaluete river. Sucks without reads, he is basically only representing a 6 (33) here, what hand would he call your 6bb pf raise with that contains a 6 ?

I doubt villain will 3barrel you at these limits. I call, but I`m a huge station [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

ClutchCity 11-18-2007 03:01 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
I would reraise on the flop, and then I know exactly where I'm at. I bet he thinks you're just continuing. At best he has 77/88/45 or any 3. He could also be doing it with some gut or any other random bluff. Hell, a lot of the time I'll C/R a CB with any 2 cards.

You're beating most everything, so raise with the best hand. Not a good time to smooth. It's too weak, I think. It'll leave him open to bluff the turn, and you'll have a hard decision if he makes a big bet. Yeah, I definitely like RRing here for info.

xoom 11-18-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
the cleaner: it's a standard 4bb opening raise..

Hmm, we're not supposed to raise for information, are we? But yeah, I can definitely see how raising the flop for value against 77/88/45/random bluff is the best move.

I also folded the turn? Too weak?

DennisGPunkt 11-18-2007 07:38 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
I'd raise to ~7 on the flop. He puts you on two overs here alot , thinking you can't call his tiny raise. If he calls or shoves I obv. gonna fold.

hockeyf 11-18-2007 08:01 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
Call turn and probably fold river. People at 25NL dont like to 3-barrel that much.

11-18-2007 09:44 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
[ QUOTE ]
the cleaner: it's a standard 4bb opening raise..

Hmm, we're not supposed to raise for information, are we? But yeah, I can definitely see how raising the flop for value against 77/88/45/random bluff is the best move.

I also folded the turn? Too weak?

[/ QUOTE ]


Damn, your right, somehow missread the big blind for 0.15.

shooot@04 11-18-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Need standard line w/99 against unknown.
 
Agree w/ Dennis here, he most likely put you on two overs and is trying to get you to lay it down, once you reraise if he comes back over the top your most likely looking trips or slowplayed big pairs.

Just flatting on the flop makes you look really weak so his turn bet doesnt surprise me, either reraise or fold, I wouldnt flat behind unless you plan on calling the river


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