15/30 river decision with AA
 

10/20 half-kill game at Northern Quest Casino in Spokane. It's a kill pot with the kill being posted by BB.

UTG+1 is loose preflop and will limp any suited connector, pair, suited ace, or two broadway cards preflop. He's pretty aggressive postflop when he hits TPTK+ and check/folds when he misses. He can be tricky and likes to check/raise the river when he hits his draws. Only hand of interest between us is when I checked behind with top two vs. his nut flush draw on a Q93T8 board.

SB is TAG who is steaming a bit after losing a few big pots.

UTG+2 is a bad, loose-passive player.

Preflop: UTG+1 limps, UTG+2 limps, MP limps, I raise on the Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], SB 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP folds, I cap, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, BB folds.

Flop (17.6 SB): 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checks to me, I bet, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds.

Turn (10.3 BB): 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Checks to me, I bet and they both call.

River (13.3 BB): 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Checks to me and I ...?

Is this a check behind, b/f, or b/c, and why? This is probably a pretty straightforward spot, but even a quick one-line response would be appreciated. Thanks.

Re: 15/30 river decision with AA
 

Seems like a trivially easy bet to me. Large pot, decent hand, live game where people often bet out the river when they make obvious hands because they themselves are terrified of getting outdrawn and check behind virtually all non nut hands.

Re: 15/30 river decision with AA
 

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Seems like a trivially easy bet to me. Large pot, decent hand, live game where people often bet out the river when they make obvious hands because they themselves are terrified of getting outdrawn and check behind virtually all non nut hands.

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Does that make it a trivially easy bet/fold, then?

Re: 15/30 river decision with AA
 

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Seems like a trivially easy bet to me. Large pot, decent hand, live game where people often bet out the river when they make obvious hands because they themselves are terrified of getting outdrawn and check behind virtually all non nut hands.

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Does that make it a trivially easy bet/fold, then?

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Should be b/c if someone c/r's there you're never good, but then again w/a pot this big I just pay off

Re: 15/30 river decision with AA
 

check behind...what will call you that you beat? you've pretty much shown strength the whole way...anyone calling would need to have at least a premium overpair, more likely two pair...sorry if it seems weak here, but i don't see a value bet gaining much here

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check behind...what will call you that you beat? you've pretty much shown strength the whole way...anyone calling would need to have at least a premium overpair, more likely two pair...sorry if it seems weak here, but i don't see a value bet gaining much here

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This has to be a joke right?

Sb 3 bet pf, he might have an overpair like TT, JJ, maybe even a scared QQ or KK. UTG has 1 pair and wants to call b/c, the "pot is so big, I just have to see the river." You will get at least one call here. Not value betting this river is a sin, now if it gets c/r'd we have a debate.

Re: 15/30 river decision with AA
 

Bet. If UTG2 raises, fold. If anyone else raises, call.

Re: 15/30 river decision with AA
 

I would roll the dice and bet if UTG+1 plays as you say he could CR you with a straight, but he most likely has overcards. On a CR never fold in a pot this big for (meta game considerations)I would consider a fold to a CR if i had to overcall