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vixticator 11-01-2007 03:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
That sucks bored. Switch to limit!

bored 11-01-2007 03:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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That sucks bored. Switch to limit!

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Then it'll take even longer to get my money back!

400NL FTW?

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 03:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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This month starts for me with -4buyins through coolers and [censored].

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Me too!

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http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9...ersuckslj1.jpg

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http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/8...v1graphix9.gif

lol am i doing it right?

*flees*

PJo336 11-01-2007 03:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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That sucks bored. Switch to limit!

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Then it'll take even longer to get my money back!

400NL FTW?

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grabbing my popcorn now

creamfillin 11-01-2007 04:02 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
+4 BIs today yo
<3 November

bored 11-01-2007 04:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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That sucks bored. Switch to limit!

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Then it'll take even longer to get my money back!

400NL FTW?

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grabbing my popcorn now

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My BR management >>>>> my poker playing skills so I won't be doing that... although if I went to 10/20, I would just have to steal some blinds and make some cbets and then I'd be even...

creamfillin 11-01-2007 04:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Some really SICK graphs in the bbv thread.
Kotkis is [censored] maniac

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 04:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
opponent was a std tag, 21/17.5/6 over around 150. by the river im very sure he has a mid pair, but i wasnt sure how much i could extract. how much would you bet, if at all? i dont like betting the turn cause a set could still be checking 2 streets, and midpairs would be putting me on a slowplay as well

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $25.45
SB: $71.50
BB: $79.10
UTG: $8.50
MP: $28.10
Hero (CO): $32.35

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, 4 folds, MP calls $2

Flop: ($6.10) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($6.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero should valuebet how much?

creamfillin 11-01-2007 04:14 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I prefer a turn bet and lol if you're fearing a set already an he hasn't even done anything.

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 04:16 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
seems like he would put me on a stronger range then i have if bet the turn, and he wouldnt likely continue with a weaker hand

creamfillin 11-01-2007 04:26 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
On the turn I'd rather not give broadways a free card on the river. He could easily have a Tx like JT or KT or picked up a flush draw with his connector. I prefer to just bet, you're hand is likely best.

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 04:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
broadways dont seem like a big concern. i havent been playing back at him, so it doesnt seem the odds of them and im ahead of them are big enough...maaaybe KQs

Gelford 11-01-2007 04:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Yay ... I'm starting to get my mojo back, amazing how you sometimes just stop to think [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

bored 11-01-2007 04:29 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5843/myshotgs4.jpg

Time for a break.

vixticator 11-01-2007 04:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I'm playing a superuser IMO. This is limit. I raise, get 3bet with 88. Call. Flop set. Check to raise but he checks behind. Bet turn, fold. WTF. Who 3bets and just gives up?

creamfillin 11-01-2007 04:41 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Mark Seif?

Gelford 11-01-2007 04:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I'm playing a superuser IMO. This is limit. I raise, get 3bet with 88. Call. Flop set. Check to raise but he checks behind. Bet turn, fold. WTF. Who 3bets and just gives up?

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Who plays limit ????? (ok ok , I do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

C4LL4W4Y 11-01-2007 04:43 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Yay ... I'm starting to get my mojo back, amazing how you sometimes just stop to think [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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me too. although i only get in like 3-500 hands/day, i'm playing less tables and really learning a lot about my game.

vixticator 11-01-2007 04:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Who plays limit ????? (ok ok , I do [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

[/ QUOTE ]Limit is more profitable for me it seems, lol. I know the variance can be brutal but I cause too much of my own NL variance making bad plays, starting to think it's an unfixable leak going on 2yrs now. Can't control myself. Get stacked. Minbet poker doesn't tilt me. Meh, whatever I lost a bet. Plus you get to value bet 4th pair, and it's just the hottest thing ever.

LOL Value bluffing...

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (6.25 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ac 9s (high card, ace).
Button has 3s Ks (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.25 BB. </font>

Gelford 11-01-2007 04:54 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
limit tilts, but it is a more longterm exhaution tilt, likewise with sngs


You don't get the shocks that are inherent in NL and you can't bluff away a stack.


And honestly .. I don't believe limit is less profitable than NL, I think NL in many ways is easier as you can just autonit it, but limit you need a lot of reads.


I don't believe that nitting up a limit table will get you anywhere ... and you need to know if calling down with K high or betting 65s on that 589T board is for value [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

vixticator 11-01-2007 05:08 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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limit tilts, but it is a more longterm exhaution tilt, likewise with sngs

You don't get the shocks that are inherent in NL and you can't bluff away a stack.

And honestly .. I don't believe limit is less profitable than NL, I think NL in many ways is easier as you can just autonit it, but limit you need a lot of reads.

I don't believe that nitting up a limit table will get you anywhere ... and you need to know if calling down with K high or betting 65s on that 589T board is for value [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, it's a different kind of tilt. I still play what I think is correctly at all times, against my opponent. In NL tend to start making godawful calls, where in limit calling with a pair on river isn't *too* bad in most cases. Getting stacked makes me sick. Losing 5 bb's because some idiot hit runner runner flush, meh I don't care.

And it can definitely be played on less tables more fun/efficently. IMO it vastly helps your hand reading and value betting skills. So much that NL players should play it from time to time just to improve in those areas.

P.S. Up 60 bb's 2tabling today, heh.
*jinx*

creamfillin 11-01-2007 05:14 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I used to grind 1c/2c on AP back in the day.

PJo336 11-01-2007 05:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I used to grind 1c/2c on AP back in the day.

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you didnt kill yourself?

thing85 11-01-2007 05:17 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Dammit vix, now you make me want to play limit. It's been well over a year since I touched limit. It looks like tonight I'll be playing a mix of:

- 50NL
- .50/1 limit? (not sure which limit to play)
- $4/180 MTTs
- Alcohol

Which one is not like the other?

You guessed it...



...limit. (Alcohol goes w/ 50NL &amp; MTT imo)

PJo336 11-01-2007 05:19 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
doesnt alcohol go with limit?

thac 11-01-2007 05:19 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
NO LIMIT ON THE ALCOHOL HERE HOLLA

3pm-5pm naps are the straight nuts. Time for session 2.

creamfillin 11-01-2007 05:23 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I used to grind 1c/2c on AP back in the day.

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you didnt kill yourself?

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Lol I won a dollar in a freeroll and grinded it up to around 200$. Lost it all at 25NL though [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

thing85 11-01-2007 05:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
It's almost time for my monthly realization that I suck at poker. Usually it's like:

- Lose between 5-10 BIs during the first few days
- Break even for a couple weeks
- Win enough in the last week to put my win rate around 1 ptBB/100 for the month
- ????
- Profit obv

PJo336 11-01-2007 05:33 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
thing ur lifetime graph is sick, i dont get why ur struggling so much

whyzze 11-01-2007 05:35 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
pizza time. will order at 6

thac 11-01-2007 05:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Yo I have no idea who any of those guys are, so I'm voting bastard.

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 05:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Yo I have no idea who any of those guys are, so I'm voting bastard.

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whyzze 11-01-2007 05:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Yo I have no idea who any of those guys are, so I'm voting bastard.

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but if bastard wins....then I have to order Pita Pit...


There's no hungry howie's near you? thought that crap was everywhere. Im not surprised about the others...they all kind of suck...except for Jet's

PJo336 11-01-2007 05:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ive heard of papa romanos but it blows

thac 11-01-2007 05:38 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Nope, we have Domino's, Papa Johns, Pizza Hut, East of Chicago (the nutssss), Marco's, and like 5-6 small chain stores.

whyzze 11-01-2007 05:41 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I completely forgot about Domino's and Pizza Hut lmao.

I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Pizza Hut Buffet

NL Newbie 11-01-2007 05:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Nope, we have Domino's, Papa Johns, Pizza Hut, East of Chicago (the nutssss), Marco's, and like 50000-60000 small chain stores.

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New italian familys opening up one every week here lol, even buying the previous one that went bustooo [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

MmMm pizzaaa....

I want that "Bruchetta" one, looks amazing(on tv [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]).

whyzze 11-01-2007 05:47 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Nope, we have Domino's, Papa Johns, Pizza Hut, East of Chicago (the nutssss), Marco's, and like 50000-60000 small chain stores.

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New italian familys opening up one every week here lol, even buying the previous one that went bustooo [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

MmMm pizzaaa....

I want that "Bruchetta" one, looks amazing(on tv [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]).

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I used to have that back when I lived near Toronto. I could get pizza at 4am delivered to my back door on tuesday night. Now in michigan, im lucky if I can get a pizza delivered to my front door at midnight on a friday.

Micro Donk 11-01-2007 05:48 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
midnight?

pizza places in my area wont deliver after 8 pm

andy099 11-01-2007 05:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
man im so hungry


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