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ShipitFMA 11-10-2007 01:35 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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In those token tournaments where like top 48 win a token it doesn't matter if you busto 47th vs 1st right?

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correct, and only like 5 people realise this so the other 43 continue to play like retards

vixticator 11-10-2007 01:39 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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In those token tournaments where like top 48 win a token it doesn't matter if you busto 47th vs 1st right?

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correct, and only like 5 people realise this so the other 43 continue to play like retards

[/ QUOTE ]Heh I wondered why only two called me when I shoved Q4o utg once bubble burst.

thing85 11-10-2007 01:42 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Okay Brew, I sort of failed my 6k challenge, but we're going to say it's okay because I came pretty damn close to 6k hands.
Here's the graph:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3003/updateur4.jpg

lol @ my winrate. What a [censored] day. At least I won a 5400 FPP SnG.

vixticator 11-10-2007 01:43 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Nice swong. I'd say 5.7k is close enough.

thing85 11-10-2007 01:44 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Do I dare fire up a bunch of $6.50 turbo SnGs after burning my brain out with 50NL all day?

bored 11-10-2007 01:45 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Weak. Play the other 298 hands for pride!

I made 1.5 BI in 346 hands at 50NL, but I probably made 3BIs worth of mistakes in that same period; brag or beat?

PJo336 11-10-2007 01:46 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
thing play 300 more hands, itll take like 20 min and ull prob run red hot

bored 11-10-2007 01:46 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Do I dare fire up a bunch of $6.50 turbo SnGs after burning my brain out with 50NL all day?

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Ha ha, no. I always think those will be a stress reliever, but in reality they cause more stress when your AQ < their A2 on the bubble.

creamfillin 11-10-2007 01:47 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Do I dare fire up a bunch of $6.50 turbo SnGs after burning my brain out with 50NL all day?

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Just reading this made me say "ughhhh.."

bored 11-10-2007 01:48 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I think I'm going to find a hot chick for my avatar so more people will read my posts.

creamfillin 11-10-2007 01:49 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I think I'm going to find a hot chick playing a ukulele for my avatar so more people will read my posts.

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vixticator 11-10-2007 01:49 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I think I'm going to find a hot chick for my avatar so more people will read my posts.

[/ QUOTE ]Read them or...? Er, nevermind.

thing85 11-10-2007 01:58 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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thing play 300 more hands, itll take like 20 min and ull prob run red hot

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Okay, you talked me into it. I'll report back here in a bit about how I won 3 BIs in 300 hands.

ShipitFMA 11-10-2007 01:59 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3799/gfdaghh9.jpg

My day, cbfplaying anymore. +65 in flippaments

thing85 11-10-2007 02:02 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
OMFG, no joke, first hand I played when I just sat back down (converter keeps [censored] it up for some reason):

PokerStars Game #13147666658: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/11/10 - 00:58:38 (ET)
Table 'Baillauda' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: SILVERFOX59 ($23.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Ork&Stra ($59.30 in chips)
Seat 3: Horsie83 ($52.10 in chips)
Seat 5: oilrook ($43.10 in chips)
Seat 6: thing85 ($50 in chips)
oilrook: posts small blind $0.25
thing85: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to thing85 [2d 2c]
SILVERFOX59: folds
dbellti has returned
Ork&Stra: raises $1 to $1.50
Horsie83: calls $1.50
oilrook: folds
thing85: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2h 9h]
thing85: checks
Ork&Stra: bets $2.50
Horsie83: calls $2.50
thing85: raises $5 to $7.50
Ork&Stra: calls $5
Horsie83: folds
*** TURN *** [Qc 2h 9h] [As]
thing85: bets $14
Ork&Stra: raises $36.30 to $50.30 and is all-in
thing85: calls $27 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2h 9h As] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thing85: shows [2d 2c] (a full house, Deuces full of Queens)
Ork&Stra: shows [Ah Ac] (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
Ork&Stra collected $102.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $104.25 | Rake $2
Board [Qc 2h 9h As Qh]
Seat 1: SILVERFOX59 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Ork&Stra showed [Ah Ac] and won ($102.25) with a full house, Aces full of Queens
Seat 3: Horsie83 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: oilrook (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: thing85 (big blind) showed [2d 2c] and lost with a full house, Deuces full of Queens


[censored] [censored] [censored]. There goes my profit for the day.

Kik 11-10-2007 02:06 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
lol

PJo336 11-10-2007 02:07 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
lol whoooopz,sorry thing

thing85 11-10-2007 02:36 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
- Listen to PJ's advice
- Immediately lose a buy-in
- Somehow make it all back + more
- ????
- Profit

6k hands, baby.

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3204/updatedz9.jpg

PJo336 11-10-2007 02:40 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
ur welcome [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

dthorne04 11-10-2007 02:51 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Man, after a long week of cash, playing donkaments is kinda fun.

also, nh thing. You were at my tables early today, that sure is a lot of hands. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Berky 11-10-2007 03:25 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
LOL last night I got my rakeback for last month 400 bucks. I was drunk and decided to play blackjack on party.

Beat: PLayed blackjack
Beat: Lost 200
Beat: Never played blackjack before
Variance: Gambled
Brag: all rakeback.

LOLOL, then i got pissed off and played 1/2 cap NL and was seeing like 70% of flops. LOL DRUNKAMNETS!

lol there goes last months rakbeack.

Doing good in 50NL to cover losses thankgod.

vixticator 11-10-2007 03:29 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Brag: Cashed in 3/4 MTT's tonight
Beat: No significant money, like 2x or 3x buyin.

vixticator 11-10-2007 03:30 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Beat: PLayed blackjack
Beat: Lost 200
Beat: Never played blackjack before
Variance: Gambled
Brag: all rakeback.

[/ QUOTE ]Wow, never played blackjack? Solid brag now that I think about it. Ugh, a few years ago I was losing in poker a bit on a Vegas stint so I decided to chase losses in BJ. TEEEEERRRRRRRRIBLE IDEA!

Berky 11-10-2007 03:34 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
lolol I play live at crown casino all the time aswell. Nope never played blackjack, the only 'gambling' game I ever played was roulette (like twice) and that was the first started going to the casino. Now I always play da pocka baby.

PJo336 11-10-2007 03:43 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
i had some people over to drink last night and a cardplayer was on the coffee table, and a total n00b flipped it open to a page with antonius pic on it

"why is brad pitt in a poker magazine?"

i lold so hard

whyzze 11-10-2007 03:51 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
craps >>>>>>>>>>>baccar at>>>blackjack


except baccarat is kind of boring...craps is definately the most fun and has the 2nd best EV.

whyzze 11-10-2007 03:53 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
couple of things to bitch about

1) spadeye takes forever to scan the tables...any way to speed this up?

2) My ironman page is like 5 hours behind....yesterday it wasabout 12 hours...everybody else the same?

Lego05 11-10-2007 04:11 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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craps >>>>>>>>>>>baccar at>>>blackjack


except baccarat is kind of boring...craps is definately the most fun and has the 2nd best EV.

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Ah...blackjack's the only table game I know how to play (knowing how to play means having a +ev edge or having the lowest -ev disadvantage). And I really think I could pull off one of the simple counting systmes like KO or Hi/Lo but only if there were 3 or fewer players at the table....more than that + the dealer going as fast as he/she does and I get lost after 3-5 hands. Maybe if I practiced it....but that'd be stupid since I already have such an edge at certain poker games and I would rarely travel to AC to play blackjack.....plus their deck penetration is always gonna be an issue and I would likely need to learn a more complicated counting system to be able to really count on it to make some money.


Brag though: I'm up about $1200 on AC at blackjack (not counting comps)...it's been over 3 visits over the last 4 month or so.

Beat: I was up about $1875 on them until they gave me a free room for two nights in October and I went with my girlfriend for a fun getaway. I spent 70 bucks for a bottle of vodka (smirnoff too, nothing great) and orange juice (next time we bring our own booze) and I lost $640....she lost $100. (Just to clarify though she's still up like a bit over $200 and my dad was there once too and he made over $500.)



Variance...I have 4 free rooms (one per week) for November.



Thing I hate: The day I lost the $640 I had a $50 match play...meaning I put down 50 bucks and the ticket and its a $100 payout. I did it at single deck BJ table and I was the only one there, then one other guy sat....and it was easy enough to know I had a [censored] killer spot (not one card above a 7 had come out after 2 hands...so easy to spot) so I threw it down:


I got an 11 against a 6 for crying out loud. So I doubled down so I'm in for $150 + my ticket looking for a $200 profit return. Naturally the dealer makes a 21 so within the first 15 minutes I'm there I'm down $150 soon to be down $200 in my first 25 minutes.... when I actually knew I had a ridiculous +ev spot and played it as such. What really kills me is that I actually like really really knew how +ev a spot it was before the cards were dealt. I bounced aroound for a while and as late as 5 or so hours later I was up a bit but ended up down $640 that night.

creamfillin 11-10-2007 04:17 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Does anyone know how to setup PAHUD so that it always displays my stats on the same seat? I have the preferred seat set as the same on both stars and PA but it still displays them wrong.

whyzze 11-10-2007 04:17 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
about the counting systems. They will catch you doing 90% of them without a team. Aside from that, the past few casino's ive been to, use a perpetual shuffler, so it negates any card counting EV whatsoever. They save the single deck...and even the 4-6 deck games for more baller stakes than I play.

You should really learn craps....its so fun. the last time I played craps was in detroit...all the 'locals' bet against me when I was rolling lmao.

vixticator 11-10-2007 04:22 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I have never played craps. Blackjack and roulette put me on tilt even more than slot machines. Last three times have all been poker only.

whyzze 11-10-2007 04:29 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
wheel of fortune slots = ++++EV. I think im up ~100 without ever hitting a decent score...just on spinning the wheel then stopping.


my standard casino trip is own craps...hand gf my profit and then she lucksacks the roullette table. Ive never played poker at a casino.

johnnybeef 11-10-2007 04:31 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I've been pretty long overdue for a day like this.

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7...ckindayku7.jpg

That spike at the end is this little 566 bb pot:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $33.10
SB: $30.85
BB: $116.55
Hero (UTG): $86.50
CO: $10.05

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $1.05, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.45</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6.90</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $28.35</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $85.45 and is All-In</font>, BTN folds, BB calls $57.10

Turn: ($182) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($182) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $182 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB showed 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fours) and LOST (-$86.50 NET)
Hero showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Fives) and WON $179 (+$92.50 NET)

Lego05 11-10-2007 04:36 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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wheel of fortune slots = ++++EV. I think im up ~100 without ever hitting a decent score...just on spinning the wheel then stopping.


my standard casino trip is own craps...hand gf my profit and then she lucksacks the roullette table. Ive never played poker at a casino.

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I sawy those wheel of fortune things my last trip. I hate slots though...I never play those stupid things...I mena they're boring as hell...oooh pulll the lever, push the button....plus the advertising campaing is 85% of money back or w/e....like c'mon they are actually advertising that however much money goes in 85% of that come back.....they're advertising that is supposed to attract people is bascially saying that you are going to lose 15% of w/e you put in and that's probably a really really good deal.

Maybe I should learn craps but it's probably not worth my time that it would take.



And poker is soooo +ev in casinos...although also boring since it's 20-30 hands per hour and probably less ev than online depending on the stakes you play also due to the hands per hour figure....though live your winrate would likely be much larger.


If only they'd let me at least 4 table live....though I could easily do more if they were all right next to each other.

Lego05 11-10-2007 04:42 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Beef......you're playing 30NL? Didn;t you used to kill STT's....I dunno maybe I'm confusing you with someone else....but I thought you used to play like high and [censored].

vixticator 11-10-2007 04:44 AM

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If only they'd let me at least 4 table live....though I could easily do more if they were all right next to each other.

[/ QUOTE ]heh qft, small stake casino poker players are mindblowingly bad

johnnybeef 11-10-2007 04:47 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Beef......you're playing 30NL? Didn;t you used to kill STT's....I dunno maybe I'm confusing you with someone else....but I thought you used to play like high and [censored].

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I dunno about killing them. I did pretty well at the 55s for a while in 06. I made the switch to 100 nl in august of 06 and treaded water for a while before deciding to get a job. I recently got a br again and have been grinding to get the roll fit to play 100+ again.

Lego05 11-10-2007 04:50 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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If only they'd let me at least 4 table live....though I could easily do more if they were all right next to each other.

[/ QUOTE ]heh qft, small stake casino poker players are mindblowingly bad

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Hell yea....AK on an A high flop is the nuts 150 BB's deep. It certainly was last time I played when I stacked what I gave credit to being AQ but he said he had AJ. Usually online I just call his flop donk....but libe I raise his $30 to $85 then just bet the turn and the river until they're shipping a 300 BB pot to my backdoored A high flush (I didn't need the flush...TPTK was good.) Soooo bad. If we could get more hands in live I could make sooo much money at casinos.....though I gues they'd go broke faster (but there are prolly more fishes live, right, I dunno)...all I know is live games are ridiculously soft and I still make more $ per hour online because you can play so many more hands online than live per hour.



Let's picket casinos for the ability to multitable poker.

Lego05 11-10-2007 04:53 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Beef......you're playing 30NL? Didn;t you used to kill STT's....I dunno maybe I'm confusing you with someone else....but I thought you used to play like high and [censored].

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I dunno about killing them. I did pretty well at the 55s for a while in 06. I made the switch to 100 nl in august of 06 and treaded water for a while before deciding to get a job. I recently got a br again and have been grinding to get the roll fit to play 100+ again.

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Oh I guess I didn't confuse you with anybody...just had your results overexagerrated in my head back when I played the 27's and 60's.


What was your ROI at 60's if you don't mind? Mine was only like 3% or so for the time I played them.

Lego05 11-10-2007 04:57 AM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Here's my results ths month so far...pretty good so far....better than the terrible October (And I've made about $145 in tourneys (mostly STT's one night at my parents' house in addition to this). I really really gotta play more hands though...it's just terrible:




http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f.../novonward.jpg





http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...nwardgraph.jpg


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