Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

My bust out hand...

Average stack is about 5,800 or so.

Blinds 150 - 300 with an ante (10 or 15).

I have 6800 in chips.

There are a couple of loose cannons on my table that are begging to give their chips away, BUT directly to my left is an aggressive player that has me locked up, and 2 to my left is the aggressive chip leader who has 23,000 in chips

Dealt to me:

Js 7d in the BB.
Chip leader calls 300
MP calls 300
SB folds
I check in the BB.

Jc 7c Ts

I check with the intention of check raising the chip leader, who will bet this 90% of the time.

Chip leader bets 200, MP folds... I raise to 1000 (too many draws). He calls.

Turn is Jc 7c Ts 2c... now what. I have about 5500 left and there is 2500 in the pot... so with every draw in the world there, I shove, and he makes the tough call with Qc 8c, and I don't draw out on the river.

My thoughts... chip leader has some sort of trash pre flop. He will not limp with a good hand here. MP who calls may have a small pocket or trash, but nothing great... This was a perfect chance to squeeze, and I dogged it... !@$@#$@#



Should I have slowed down on the turn? It looks so retarded when you go all in for 2X the pot, and he rolls over the flush... when it seems so obvious he has it. In hind site, he would have called with any combination of top pair or any hand that beats me...

Re: Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

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Chip leader bets 200,

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impossible

uhh, check the turn?

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I raise to 1000 (too many draws). He calls.

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Turn is Jc 7c Ts 2c...

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I have about 5500 left and there is 2500 in the pot...

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I shove

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WTF just check the turn. If you're going to bet it, then bet less than your entire freaking stack.

Re: Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

Check the turn. It allows him to bluff. When you shove 2x the pot on that turn after check raising the flop he only clicks the call button with a hand that beats you unless he is completely terrible.

Re: Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

I did title the post... Confessions of a Donk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

Besides your play on the turn as others have mentioned, I also really don't like checking the flop. You have 2-pair in a multi-way pot on a draw heavy flop. I like a strong lead in this spot, because you may not even get the chance to check-raise in an open-limped pot, and it's a disaster to give a free card here. I don't mind taking down the pot on the flop given that board.

If the LAG chip leader raises your lead bet, you can shove with the best hand. If he just calls, he is (probably) not getting proper pot odds to draw, and meanwhile you are keeping the pot smaller than if you had check-raised. Then you can more easily re-evaluate on the turn and get away from the hand if the draw hits.

Re: Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

Guaranteed, chip leader was betting this pot with any 2 with 3 way action. My check raise was correct given my reads. I may have raised more... and I should have slowed right down on the turn... but check raise the flop was not wrong.

Re: Confessions of a Donk... PS $162 last night
 

I think the checkraise was fine.

The push on the turn was definately bad, as you tend to only get called when way behind. No matter how you play it though, you probably lose a lot of chips when villain makes his flush.