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monkover 11-06-2007 05:23 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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hey guys i got a [censored] massive problem...
I know im better than most of the 100nl regs at ftp and i can win at 200nl too but i just seem to do crazy random [censored] moves that are complete suicide...
like instacall or raises when i know for sure that i should be folding... im sure i could win easily at like 6ptbb/100 but these duck ups make me a break even player atm...
and the worst thing is it used to be different! I was beating the game at a good rate a short itme ago...

Please all the experienced guys like thac and gelford please help me out!!!

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I am going through the same problem. I do very well then hit a four buyin downswing and then tilt off one or two more in bad plays before quitting. Basically meaning I have broke even for 16.5k hands now. The sad thing is approximately only 20% of my losses were due to mistakes ( I say this cause i go through all hands and tally it up). I can't even go on a decent winning streak.

Edit: 24 hr coolin off period is the bomb.

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yeah i know what you mean...
after losing 1k at 100nl im break even now as well...

thac 11-06-2007 05:24 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
monk, IM me at SimplyAmazingTbH - we'll talk a bit about this.

wingchunflush 11-06-2007 05:26 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
When I joined 2p2 there was a buddy list that was insane and I had you on there thac and then erased because I never talked with you. I will readd becuase I have mucho respect for your game

monkover 11-06-2007 05:26 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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monk, IM me at SimplyAmazingTbH - we'll talk a bit about this.

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thanks thac
do you have aim or icq though?
i dont have im

wingchunflush 11-06-2007 05:27 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
taht is his AIM

monkover 11-06-2007 05:30 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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taht is his AIM

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k thanks didnt realize that [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Micro Donk 11-06-2007 05:34 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i was considering making a video of me playing 25NL just so people can see how leaky i play, plus i feel like its much easier to spot leaks making a video rather than just posting hands as peopel get to see every hand.

anyway, these headphones i found have an extra plug on them that has a microphone on it, and it has one of those microphones that you can move around...would it work just plugging it in and d/ling camtasia?

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just realized i dont even know where to DL camtasia, anyone have the link?

fozzy71 11-06-2007 05:34 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Thac - Just uploaded the PhattyLiver3 deck at the PSThemeShop, and sent you a free copy there. Same as the PhattyLiver2 you bought, just darker colored faces.


http://psthemes.com/forum/store/1128...7_11_13_42.jpg

fozzy71 11-06-2007 05:36 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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just realized i dont even know where to DL camtasia, anyone have the link?

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Torrent?

Mr_Pathetic 11-06-2007 05:37 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
hint: nzbsrus

Mr_Pathetic 11-06-2007 05:40 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
so whats the longest amount of time anyone here broke even without having a huge downswing or upswing. huge being over 10 buyins in either direction. I am now at 16.5k hands busting my 15k hand breakeven cherry.

MrWooster 11-06-2007 05:42 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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so whats the longest amount of time anyone here broke even without having a huge downswing or upswing. huge being over 10 buyins in either direction. I am now at 16.5k hands busting my 15k hand breakeven cherry.

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16.5K breakeven or 16.5K without any major swings?

Gelford 11-06-2007 05:45 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Monk ... easy fix, you're an idiot !


But 'jokes' aside, it's simple enough, you're plain and simply tilted. (the old exhaution, life is not fair, lucky bastards ... I'm going to show them! tilt)


In my experience there is only one cure ... stop playing for a while ... or play a different game, like sngs, stud or minbet (plo is too close imo)

Give it a rest a week or two

Mr_Pathetic 11-06-2007 05:46 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
like this I guess. there are some swings but last 6k hands I actually been playing pretty good.

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7981/nl25nd2.jpg

Edit: included stats for hands

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3...alltimegp8.png

monkover 11-06-2007 05:49 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Monk ... easy fix, you're an idiot !


But 'jokes' aside, it's simple enough, you're plain and simply tilted. (the old exhaution, life is not fair, lucky bastards ... I'm going to show them! tilt)


In my experience there is only one cure ... stop playing for a while ... or play a different game, like sngs, stud or minbet (plo is too close imo)

Give it a rest a week or two

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thanks gel! ill take a break and then play some other games... thac also andvised me to read the poker mindset so ill try that in my time off...

Micro Donk 11-06-2007 05:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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hint: nzbsrus

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no program i use will DL NZS files...even the ones on that website that i DLed just for it

Gelford 11-06-2007 05:56 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
One of the few books that I don't own ... Only psychology book I've read is Dr Al's POP .. and that is a lemon.

But yeah ... chill ... read some litterature .. do some thinking and see you at the tables in a week or two.


I'm going thru something similar as a matter of fact, but spending time with minbet and especially The Bryce's vids has made me think again

Mr_Pathetic 11-06-2007 05:59 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
wouldn't you know right when someone tilts you and you resign to not playing that there will be some ridiculously good tables. like people playing 57/30/3. lol funny thing is the 96/82/5 is who tilted me.

Gelford 11-06-2007 06:00 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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wouldn't you know right when someone tilts you and you resign to not playing that there will be some ridiculously good tables. like people playing 57/30/3. lol funny thing is the 96/82/5 is who tilted me.

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I thought you given up on tilt ?


Drop the emo/ego mate, you don't deserve to win ... you gotta prove it every hand.

thac 11-06-2007 06:02 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Thac - Just uploaded the PhattyLiver3 deck at the PSThemeShop, and sent you a free copy there. Same as the PhattyLiver2 you bought, just darker colored faces.


http://psthemes.com/forum/store/1128...7_11_13_42.jpg

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You sir, are a god.

hennnerz 11-06-2007 06:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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hey guys i got a [censored] massive problem...
I know im better than most of the 100nl regs at ftp and i can win at 200nl too but i just seem to do crazy random [censored] moves that are complete suicide...
like instacall or raises when i know for sure that i should be folding... im sure i could win easily at like 6ptbb/100 but these duck ups make me a break even player atm...
and the worst thing is it used to be different! I was beating the game at a good rate a short itme ago...

Please all the experienced guys like thac and gelford please help me out!!!

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Seriously I have the same problem. I always have had. Like I might shove K9 to a 4bet then be like wtf why o whyyyy!

Gelford 11-06-2007 06:10 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Seriously I have the same problem. I always have had. Like I might shove K9 to a 4bet then be like wtf why o whyyyy!

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You key to stopping is finding an answer to that question [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Gelford 11-06-2007 06:11 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
Hehe ... I dropped down to experiment and calibrate my game ... sustainable ?


http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/451...board03vp8.png

andy099 11-06-2007 06:12 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
The thing about poker is some people win and some people lose and then there is rake so more people lose than win. Some people have to realise they're never going to beat the game. I'm not, i'm taking up bonus whoring. lzzo

kroeliewoelie 11-06-2007 06:28 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Hehe ... I dropped down to experiment and calibrate my game ... sustainable ?


http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/451...board03vp8.png

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I thought my 37/35/3 experiment was loose, but I had trouble playing 3 tables and raising all the time, so I sometimes folded on the button, contrary to my strategy. How many tables was this?

Xander 11-06-2007 06:32 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
I know that my hatred of shortstackers is a huge leak, but hands like this make it all worth it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($16.85)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($9.65)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($2.90)</font>
Button ($9.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, UTG calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.05) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.7</font>, UTG calls $0.70.

Turn: ($2.45) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.7</font>, UTG calls $1.70 (All-In).

River: ($0) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $5.85

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 2c 2s (three of a kind, twos).
UTG has Jh 4h (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $5.85. </font>

kroeliewoelie 11-06-2007 06:39 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I know that my hatred of shortstackers is a huge leak, but hands like this make it all worth it.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($16.85)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($9.65)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($2.90)</font>
Button ($9.30)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $0.10.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, UTG calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.05) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.7</font>, UTG calls $0.70.

Turn: ($2.45) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.7</font>, UTG calls $1.70 (All-In).

River: ($0) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $5.85

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 2c 2s (three of a kind, twos).
UTG has Jh 4h (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins $5.85. </font>

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I think your raise preflop is stupid here. This guy posts UTG (he's bad), he's buying in 2.90 dollars. What does that mean? Probably his last dollars. So expect a lot of gambling. I.e. no folding. So any pair will have you beat.

I think automatically raising pocket pairs without looking at stack sizes is a leak.

wingchunflush 11-06-2007 06:40 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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I think automatically raising pocket pairs without looking at stack sizes is a leak.

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QFT NH SIR

Xander 11-06-2007 06:44 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
That's the point. The stack size is the reason I did it. The satisfaction I get from busting those guys is what I'm after.

wingchunflush 11-06-2007 06:51 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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That's the point. The stack size is the reason I did it. The satisfaction I get from busting those guys is what I'm after.

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You really need to take a look at this statement and try to figure out why its bad. You HAVE to take your ego out of your play. I hate shortstackers as well but I am not going aggrotard on them to bust them. its -ev. You do this alot and you will lose money which is a leak plain and simple. Isnt your goal to make decisions that will make you money in the long run??

Micro Donk 11-06-2007 07:00 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
stars needs a "stand up" option, so you wont have to leave the table to change seats. i emailed them about it, but i think it could happen if more people email about it

ShipitFMA 11-06-2007 07:03 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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Hehe ... I dropped down to experiment and calibrate my game ... sustainable ?


http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/451...board03vp8.png

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I beat 25nl at party at 12ptbb for 25k hands playing like 40/30/2 lol

kurto 11-06-2007 07:04 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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stars needs a "stand up" option, so you wont have to leave the table to change seats. i emailed them about it, but i think it could happen if more people email about it

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Full Tilt has it and I use it all the time.

wingchunflush 11-06-2007 07:15 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
shipitFMA, your avatar is so mesmerizing. I have watched the vids at youtube of her, but this is the perfect clip IMO

kaz2107 11-06-2007 07:25 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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pics of gf imo

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http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/phot...91388_3193.jpg

On the right

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i would not say I would take them both for respect purpose to Thac the Brewer, but I definetly take the left one in that costume if possible.

[/ QUOTE ]shhhhiiiipppppp iiiiitttttttt

bozzer 11-06-2007 07:26 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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shipitFMA, your avatar is so mesmerizing. I have watched the vids at youtube of her, but this is the perfect clip IMO

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so true but done to death.

i can't believe it by i am spending my evening talking to these titan support girls/bots. they keep denying they are bots (with spelling errors!) but coming out with stupid repitious answers.. i can't believe i still haven't worked out whats going on (or managed to deposit) [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

whyzze 11-06-2007 07:29 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
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i can't believe it by i am spending my evening talking to these titan support girls/bots. they keep denying they are bots (with spelling errors!) but coming out with stupid repitious answers.. i can't believe i still haven't worked out whats going on (or managed to deposit) [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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how long do they take to respond? back when i played on titan they would take forever between responses...and never made spelling mistakes. I figured they just had a FAQ and cut and paste.

creamfillin 11-06-2007 07:32 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
played against potripper today

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($18.20)
SB ($23.80)
Hero ($24.75)
UTG ($45.60)
MP ($15.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.5</font>, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB folds.

Final Pot: $1.50

wingchunflush 11-06-2007 07:53 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
38 minutes till I can go home. gf is making some steaks and baked potatoes

monkeymaps 11-06-2007 08:05 PM

Re: ***uNL Microbrew Thread*** NOV 2007 (ot)
 
good start to my night lol



Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $1.75
UTG: $13.20
CO: $5.80
BTN: $4.30
Hero (SB): $10.05

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.30</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.50</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $1.20, BTN folds

Flop: ($3.40) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $11.70 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $5.55 and is All-In

Turn: ($20.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($20.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $20.50 Pot ($1 Rake)
UTG showed K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Kings) and WON $19.50 (+$9.45 NET)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Kings) and LOST (-$10.05 NET)


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