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BrandiFan 09-09-2007 06:16 PM

Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button (t14475)
SB (t10975)
BB (t5925)
Hero (t20650)
UTG+1 (t8600)
MP1 (t8175)
MP2 (t17325)
MP3 (t6375)
CO (t13950)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1100</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t1100, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: (t2800) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t2000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t14000</font>, MP3 calls t3275 (All-In).

Turn: (t22075) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t22075) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t22075

I am thinking it's pretty likely that he has a weaker ace or pp which may fold if I lead out. Just bad luck?

Edit: it's the sunday million

levAA 09-09-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
With AQ i think it's better to lead, so you can consider laying it down if villain pushes over you (here i would call the push - cause he could easily be on a flush-draw) - with AK i'd c/r.

BrandiFan 09-09-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
he's only got 5k after flop, I don't think I could bet-fold ever there...

BrandiFan 09-09-2007 06:31 PM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
plus I think AK is very unlikely as he should have shoved pre.

levAA 09-09-2007 07:32 PM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
AK is unlikely right - still i would not like to risk giving a free card here.

ASPoker8 09-09-2007 09:10 PM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
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With AQ i think it's better to lead, so you can consider laying it down if villain pushes over you (

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leading is fine, but dear god not for this reason

ASPoker8 09-09-2007 09:11 PM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
lead this flop because its drawy and you have the nuts and you cant give a free card to this dude

also lead an amount that gives him a chance to be a retard and shove something dumb

you're not folding this hand w/ these stacks, so play optimally

earck 09-10-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
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lead this flop because its drawy and you have the nuts and you cant give a free card to this dude

also lead an amount that gives him a chance to be a retard and shove something dumb

you're not folding this hand w/ these stacks, so play optimally

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I aggree you need to protect your hand here.

BrandiFan 09-10-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
I agree, I am a donk.

levAA 09-10-2007 03:45 AM

Re: Do I need to lead out on this flop?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
With AQ i think it's better to lead, so you can consider laying it down if villain pushes over you (

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leading is fine, but dear god not for this reason

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i agree with you of course - in this hand

the lead with AQ and c/r with AK was more a general guideline i use when playing the high aces.


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