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suzzer99 01-18-2007 10:15 PM

STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Ok, well bluefeet sanctioned this so I think I might as well give it a shot. I guess the idea since SSNL apparently sucks and MSNL ignores us, we'll just throw some cash hands in this thread and see what happens. I guess the only advice would be to try to wait until the discussion on one hand dies down a little before posting another one, or we'll wind up with a big mess of spaghetti. Which will probably happen anyway. Cest la vie. I guess the other solution would be for us to just takeover SSNL or something.

Here are some hands. I really really suck btw, so simply telling me I'm horrible won't really accomplish anything. Also I'm playing laggy because I figure I'll learn quicker wth villians are up to, even though I know it will probably be expensive. With the state of things, I figure I'll probably be getting a job soon anyway, so I don't really mind risking the roll at this point.

Oh yeah, by the time of most of these hands occurred I had established myself as laggy early and a river calling station. So keep that in mind.


#1
PokerStars Game #7996941782: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/18 - 06:06:20 (ET)
Table 'Adelheid' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: suzzer99 ($148.05 in chips)
Seat 2: krawiec ($393.95 in chips)
Seat 3: splashn95 ($78.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Reynolds XO ($591.35 in chips)
Seat 5: SefenHoldem ($142.55 in chips)
Seat 6: BY@NYC ($56.70 in chips)
SefenHoldem: posts small blind $1
BY@NYC: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to suzzer99 [Kh As]
suzzer99: raises $6 to $8
krawiec: calls $8
splashn95: folds
Reynolds XO: folds
SefenHoldem: calls $7
BY@NYC: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc Jh 9s]
SefenHoldem: checks
suzzer99: bets $22
krawiec: calls $22
SefenHoldem: folds
*** TURN *** [Kc Jh 9s] [2s]
suzzer99: bets $46
krawiec: raises $54 to $100
suzzer99: calls $54
*** RIVER *** [Kc Jh 9s 2s] [Tc]
suzzer99: checks
krawiec: bets $114
suzzer99: calls $18.05 and is all-in

This is the first time I'd gotten into it with this dude. Check the turn maybe? I'm so used to not wanting to give free cards.



#2
PokerStars Game #7997003792: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/18 - 06:28:11 (ET)
Table 'Adelheid' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: suzzer99 ($139.80 in chips)
Seat 2: krawiec ($570.85 in chips)
Seat 3: Hauley ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: SefenHoldem ($224.15 in chips)
Seat 6: rxtyo ($205.05 in chips)
suzzer99: posts small blind $1
krawiec: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to suzzer99 [8s 7s]
Hauley: folds
SefenHoldem: folds
rxtyo: folds
suzzer99: calls $1
krawiec: checks
*** FLOP *** [7d Qd 4c]
suzzer99: bets $4
krawiec: calls $4
*** TURN *** [7d Qd 4c] [2s]
suzzer99: checks
krawiec: bets $8
suzzer99: calls $8
*** RIVER *** [7d Qd 4c 2s] [8h]
suzzer99: bets $28
krawiec: raises $180 to $208
suzzer99:

Same villian as above. Once he won that big pot he had been reraising me or calling me in BVB every time. So I figured I'd limp here then call his raise. Does leading the river suck? Once he comes over the top, am I ever ahead on the river?



#3
okerStars Game #7999113238: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/18 - 07:22:31 (ET)
Table 'Nenetta' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: skydancing8 ($269.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Alamedar ($141.50 in chips)
Seat 3: SteveKuntz ($502.45 in chips)
Seat 4: suzzer99 ($424.60 in chips)
Seat 5: triwanderer ($113 in chips)
Seat 6: piscogay ($185 in chips)
SteveKuntz: posts small blind $1
suzzer99: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to suzzer99 [Jh Jc]
triwanderer: folds
piscogay: folds
skydancing8: folds
Alamedar: raises $2 to $4
SteveKuntz: folds
suzzer99: raises $10 to $14
Alamedar: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [7c 5d 6d]
suzzer99: bets $20
Alamedar: calls $20
*** TURN *** [7c 5d 6d] [6s]
suzzer99: checks
Alamedar: bets $20
suzzer99: calls $20
*** RIVER *** [7c 5d 6d 6s] [4c]
suzzer99: checks
Alamedar: bets $87.50 and is all-in
suzzer99:

Villian was fairly aggro.



#4
PokerStars Game #7999219627: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/18 - 07:58:31 (ET)
Table 'Nenetta' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: skydancing8 ($257.70 in chips)
Seat 2: jdiggler111 ($135.15 in chips)
Seat 3: SteveKuntz ($453.75 in chips)
Seat 4: suzzer99 ($443.75 in chips)
Seat 5: triwanderer ($125.30 in chips)
Seat 6: piscogay ($196.10 in chips)
jdiggler111: posts small blind $1
SteveKuntz: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to suzzer99 [As Ad]
suzzer99: raises $6 to $8
triwanderer: folds
piscogay: folds
skydancing8: folds
jdiggler111: calls $7
SteveKuntz: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [Th 5c 2d]
jdiggler111: checks
SteveKuntz: bets $14
suzzer99: raises $28 to $42
jdiggler111: folds
SteveKuntz said, "ah...the one trick donkey"
SteveKuntz said, "fine, this time"
SteveKuntz:

Ok this one is weird. DF_newbie told me this guy is solid. I was playing deeper than I wanted because this was a good table, I was getting ready to quit, and I absolutely did not want to get into it with him. He tanked for a while. I was soooo scared he would come way over the top. What would you do if he did?



#5
PokerStars Game #7999115641: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/18 - 07:24:00 (ET)
Table 'Aegina II' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: Javanut ($214.05 in chips)
Seat 2: suzzer99 ($308.90 in chips)
Seat 3: krawiec ($393.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Jager244 ($350.10 in chips)
Seat 5: spreadeagle2 ($160 in chips)
Seat 6: xxGooilersxx ($200 in chips)
krawiec: posts small blind $1
Jager244: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to suzzer99 [Jh Th]
spreadeagle2: folds
xxGooilersxx: folds
Javanut: raises $4 to $6
suzzer99: calls $6
krawiec: folds
Jager244: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Td Jc 7d]
Jager244: checks
Javanut: checks
suzzer99: bets $12
Jager244: raises $28 to $40
Javanut: folds
suzzer99: calls $28
*** TURN *** [Td Jc 7d] [8c]
Jager244: bets $60
suzzer99:

Villian had been raising a lot, preflop or on the flop then folding to a RR. Definitely more aggro than a calling station.



#6 - bonus entertainment hand so you can call me an idiot

PokerStars Game #7997034979: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/01/18 - 06:38:54 (ET)
Table 'Albireo V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: pipilina ($561.90 in chips)
Seat 2: suzzer99 ($183.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Lamb of God ($255.30 in chips)
Seat 4: graniteking ($99.80 in chips)
Seat 5: yudianto ($39 in chips)
Seat 6: hutumutu ($390.55 in chips)
hutumutu: posts small blind $1
pipilina: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to suzzer99 [Ts 2s]
suzzer99: raises $6 to $8
Lamb of God: calls $8
graniteking: folds
yudianto: folds
hutumutu: folds
pipilina: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [9c 8d 2d]
pipilina: checks
suzzer99: bets $12
Lamb of God: raises $20 to $32
pipilina: folds
suzzer99: calls $20
*** TURN *** [9c 8d 2d] [Th]
suzzer99: checks
Lamb of God: checks
*** RIVER *** [9c 8d 2d Th] [4d]
suzzer99: bets $54
Lamb of God: raises $161.30 to $215.30 and is all-in
suzzer99: calls $89.55 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lamb of God: shows [Ad Qd] (a flush, Ace high)

Preflop I hadn't raised in a while so I felt the need to maintain my laggy image. On the flop he had been playing back at me a LOT. I was planning to lead the flop then shutdown if no fold. Not saying it was GOOD thinking. But there was some thought. Obv I'm going for the CR on the turn here. I'm never ever ahead on this river, and leading is bad right (in addition to everything else)? I show the results so you can see what this dude was up to.

Pudge714 01-18-2007 10:22 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
I'll go more in depth later, but this
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop I hadn't raised in a while so I felt the need to maintain my laggy image.

[/ QUOTE ]
Is really wrong.

Pasterbator 01-18-2007 10:23 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'll go more in depth later, but this
[ QUOTE ]
Preflop I hadn't raised in a while so I felt the need to maintain my laggy image.

[/ QUOTE ]
Is really wrong.

[/ QUOTE ]

I tried telling him that.

suzzer99 01-18-2007 10:30 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Ok, maybe I was bored. But there is a style of play where you become known as a guy who will play any 2 cards, then reap the action you get. Again, OBVIOUSLY I don't have the skill to play this way. But it is a style. Plus I was suited. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

BvlyHls90210 01-18-2007 10:31 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Quite the odd STT forum, but whatevs.

Pasterbator 01-18-2007 10:32 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ok, maybe I was bored. But there is a style of play where you become known as a guy who will play any 2 cards, then reap the action you get. Again, OBVIOUSLY I don't have the skill to play this way. But it is a style. Plus I was suited. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

But it isnt. Not from UTG. Not at 1/2. Not if you're gonna play it like that. Going to get drunk, will explain more later/tomorrow.

futuredoc85 01-18-2007 10:37 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
suzz, stats on the guy from hands 1 and 2?
3) is a river fold IMO. you dont beat a lot.
4) if hes indeed solid, and he believes you're solid then you can fold to a push there, i mean surely hes 3-betting anything that makes an overpair there pf and thats a pretty dry board what could he be bluffing?
5) id 3-bet this pf all day from in position especially with your read and him being CO.
6) LOL

suzzer99 01-18-2007 10:38 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
#1 and #2 guy was like 35/17 or something I think. It was pretty obvious after hand #1 that he knew I was trying to get my BI back and he was more than happy to try to take another one. IE - he thought I sucked and/or was steaming.

futuredoc85 01-18-2007 10:42 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
hmm. unless hes a nut postflop then id c/c turn and c/c a small river bet but fold if he bombs it in hand 1. hand 2 id probably fold the turn but as played i think bet/calling the river is fine, you dont want to fold 2 pair here bvb

Inyaface 01-18-2007 10:57 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
1. Check turn
2. Raise pf. Check river maybe but bet isn't bad. Very read dependant to the RR.
3. CR turn AI
4. Fine
5. Call turn
6. Terrrrriblleee

wiggs73 01-18-2007 11:00 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
All,

I will reply to this thread after my session but while y'all are at it, go holla at me in SSNL (I post my cash hands there, crazy I know).

suzzer99 01-18-2007 11:02 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. Check turn
2. Raise pf. Check river maybe but bet isn't bad. Very read dependant to the RR.
3. CR turn AI
4. Fine
5. Call turn
6. Terrrrriblleee

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, on #2 he had been playing back a lot preflop, so I didn't want to be faced with a big repop.

futuredoc85 01-18-2007 11:07 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
1. Check turn
2. Raise pf. Check river maybe but bet isn't bad. Very read dependant to the RR.
3. CR turn AI
4. Fine
5. Call turn
6. Terrrrriblleee

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, on #2 he had been playing back a lot preflop, so I didn't want to be faced with a big repop.

[/ QUOTE ]

the problem w/ that is your hand doesnt have much value outside of raising and taking it down w/ a c-bet on the flop.

Inyaface 01-18-2007 11:08 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

1. Check turn
2. Raise pf. Check river maybe but bet isn't bad. Very read dependant to the RR.
3. CR turn AI
4. Fine
5. Call turn
6. Terrrrriblleee

[/ QUOTE ]

Thanks, on #2 he had been playing back a lot preflop, so I didn't want to be faced with a big repop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Meh Limping isn't terrible then (I do it way more than most people).
It's very read dependant on the river.

suzzer99 01-18-2007 11:09 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
All,

I will reply to this thread after my session but while y'all are at it, go holla at me in SSNL (I post my cash hands there, crazy I know).

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd be glad to, but obviously I suck.

Green Kool Aid 01-18-2007 11:14 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Agree with Wiggs, and if we are gonna have this I would rather it be stickied or something so it's not always just floating around on the first or second page.

ALReturnsLOL 01-18-2007 11:14 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($20.35)
SB ($21.40)
BB ($7.20)
UTG ($6.35)
MP ($27.50)
Hero ($30.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($7) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($7) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $7</font>, Hero calls $7.

Final Pot: $21


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($29.15)
CO ($21.30)
Button ($31.30)
Hero ($25.65)
BB ($26.85)
UTG ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($9) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6.5</font>, UTG calls $6.50.

Turn: ($22) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($22) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG calls $10.

Final Pot: $42


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($18.95)
Button ($22.65)
SB ($12.45)
BB ($5.15)
UTG ($27.65)
Hero ($26.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $0.90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.75</font>, SB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.25</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: $13

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($14.75)
MP ($10.30)
CO ($9.15)
Hero ($24.90)
SB ($19.90)
BB ($50.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($8) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.5</font>, Hero calls $1.50.

Final Pot: $11

TruFloridaGator 01-18-2007 11:15 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
On #5, why is it not a 3bet all in on the flop?

Jshuttlesworth 01-18-2007 11:17 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
Agree with Wiggs, and if we are gonna have this I would rather it be stickied or something so it's not always just floating around on the first or second page.

[/ QUOTE ]

not trying to be a nit but this is STTF... are they really that big of d-bags in SSNL? they seem to answer me most of the time if I try to make a detailed post.

That said, any kind of thread is better than the 34253546773 threads we've had in the past 3 days that are like "CAN I FOLD TPTK ON THE FLOP TO A CRAI GETTING 7:1 ODDS IN A $3.40?????"

Pasterbator 01-18-2007 11:18 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Al, we will discuss some of these hands tomorrow, but you missed out on a bunch of value in the AK hand and i'd bet the A9 on the turn.

But we'll talk more tomorrow. Hit me up then, i'll be leaving soon.

Jay Riall 01-18-2007 11:20 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
AL - JK is ok, I may fold river though, looks like he beats you a lot here.

AK - bet river slightly more - $13 looks good.

AA - standard.

A9 - I'd bet the turn for value, still lots of worse Ax, worse 2-pairs, pair+draws that call us.

Jay Riall 01-18-2007 11:22 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Also, SSNL is a really good forum. You just have to know who to listen to. Much like this forum really.

TruFloridaGator 01-18-2007 11:24 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
Also, SSNL is a really good forum. You just have to know who to listen to. Much like this forum really.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. This is silly.

Jshuttlesworth 01-18-2007 11:25 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Also, SSNL is a really good forum. You just have to know who to listen to. Much like this forum really.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. This is silly.

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Jay Riall 01-18-2007 11:28 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Suzzer -

1. Check turn. As played fold to the minraise. He's never bluffing and hardly ever value betting a worse hand.

2. Raise preflop. I'd usually fold to the river reraise, but calling vs. some is ok. River raises at small games are usually close to the nuts.

3. CRai on turn or just lead again. c/c is pretty bad imo. As played call river.

4. Calling is fine if he really is solid. I need a good read not to raise this though. If he comes over the top you have to muck.

5. I like flatcalling the flop c-r. I don't think he will call a shove with a worse hand. I'd call the turn bet.

6. Terrible all over, but you know that already I hope.

wiggs73 01-18-2007 11:32 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Suzz,

I haven't read the other replies, fwiw, but here's my take on the hands...

Hand 1: You could def. check turn but betting is alright, imo. As played you can actually fold turn, odds be damned, I think you are rarely ahead here.

Hand 2: Raise preflop, come on you said you're playing LAG! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I'd also bet the turn as played. River bet is good, imo, and I'd proooobably go ahead and call the river, it's an unraised blind v. blind pot so he could have lots of goofy 2 pair hands... also you played this like donkeys play missed draws fo sho. So I don't think a bluff is totally out of the question.

Hand 3: I bet the turn there too.

Hand 4: lol I call the flop here a lot since there are virtually 0 draws. Standard wa/wb situation. If you raise, which btw is fine, and you get b3b I think he has a set. Like I said, just not a whole lot else he is playing that aggressively on a T52 rainbow board, especially if he is solid.

Hand 5: I'd 3bet the flop sometimes, as played I call turn.

Hand 6: Is this your Doyle Brunson impression pre?

"Preflop I hadn't raised in a while so I felt the need to maintain my laggy image."

That is really bad.

Rest of hand is lol but you already know that.

wiggs73 01-18-2007 11:34 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Suzzer,

You seem to play aggro preflop and on the flop and like to CC turn and river.

Definitely spend time looking at your aggro factors in PT by street. And spend time reviewing hands where you call down.

Street by street, I ran like 4/1.5/1.25 for a long time and I'm running about 3.5/2/2.5 now and my results are better like whoa.

ALReturnsLOL 01-18-2007 11:35 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Also, SSNL is a really good forum. You just have to know who to listen to. Much like this forum really.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. This is silly.

[/ QUOTE ]


I could see how this seems lame to you guys. But fwiw I get no love in the NL forums. And more people that I trust post here.

Eagles 01-18-2007 11:36 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Suzzer
1. Check turn
2.Raise pf,complete isn't terrible bet fold the river looks good.
3. crai turn
4. fine
5. 3bet flop
6. terrible just fold preflop you don't need to worry about maintaining an image raising pf here is awful.

Jay Riall 01-18-2007 11:41 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Also, SSNL is a really good forum. You just have to know who to listen to. Much like this forum really.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree. This is silly.

[/ QUOTE ]


I could see how this seems lame to you guys. But fwiw I get no love in the NL forums. And more people that I trust post here.

[/ QUOTE ]

What do you from a forum? I don't care who posts the hands in SSNL I still reply to them. We get noobs in the ssnl forum all the time and their questions nearly always get answered. Don't see where your coming from [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

chisness 01-18-2007 11:49 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
stevekuntz is so gross i really don't know how he wins he limps like every hand but i think still does decent and will make some bluffs

GtrHtr 01-18-2007 11:55 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
hand 1 fold the turn.

hand 2 you're done after betting the flop, raise pf.

the hardest part of cash for me when I switched (in July btw) was getting away from the "showdown" mentality I'd developed in STT play.

Also, when posting cash hands, its good to post not only your reads, hopefully beyond stats, but also your image.

Good luck with this.

lol, just noticed there where more hands, scrolling down is the nutz, more to follow.

DevinLake 01-18-2007 11:58 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Here's how most my threads have gone:

1) I make a post of a hand I found difficult.
2) I get a response or two from low post count people.
3) I wait for a bit, then reply to the responses which are usually bad.
4) My more indepth second post acts to bump thread and get better discussion going.
5) Finally, some (what I assume are respected posters) come along and give me some good advice.

Small sample, but that seems to be the process. If you get one respected poster to reply, others will probably have a look at the thread. You might just need to find ways of bumping it, without just typing 'bump'.

GtrHtr 01-19-2007 12:05 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
hand 3 fold the river, maybe earlier if I looked closer.

hand 4 is fine.

hand 5 fold or jam after a flop rr. Usually that deep, I'd fold vs a monster draw where ur behind even tho ur ahead atm.

hand 6 wft? Your image is important, but maintain it from position. Really a lot more going on there, but the showdown syndrome is most obv.

blackize 01-19-2007 12:10 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
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You might just need to find ways of bumping it, without just typing 'bump'.

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Gimmick accounts FTW

GtrHtr 01-19-2007 12:14 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
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Also, SSNL is a really good forum. You just have to know who to listen to. Much like this forum really.

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I agree. This is silly.

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I could see how this seems lame to you guys. But fwiw I get no love in the NL forums. And more people that I trust post here.

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uNL is basically a waste, send ur hands to people you trust on aim like Pastorbater, Prodigy or even me (lol). SSNL, read Jay's comments. I assume he is Jay1986 of old, whom I've really grown to like as a NL poster, along with the people that post around him in SSNL. SSNL is a great forum with less "community" feel then sttf, but its more business oriented IMO. He is very correct about knowing who is who on that forum, less then uNL, SSNL does have its share of short term posters. PM me if you want my aim or just pm me w/ your hands and I'll give you a modest perspective.

Gramps 01-19-2007 12:34 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
I've only played a few thousand NL$ hands in my life, but have just enough experience to see that Hand #1 is a classic mistake hand of someone switching from SNGs to 100 BB NL$. Sure, some draws are in his range, but also in his range are some hands you're drawing thin/near dead against. Getting most your stack in in these type of spots against that ugly range is how (other) people can have very high win rates in these games...

...I'd check the Turn most of the times, fold to most Turn bets if made, and to River bets on a Turn check-behind call a fair amount of the time, but probably not lead the River (see TOP).

BHokie1 01-19-2007 01:49 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Just an idea

Post the hands in SSNL forum and post a link here or in the [censored] thread.

SNG-&gt;Cash players can go and respond there, and others in that forum might give input also.

I plan on giving NL a try in Feb.

DevinLake 01-19-2007 01:54 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
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Different Jay. Jay1986 still uses that sign-in and I think he posts frequently in SSNL. Agreed that he's a good poster.

suzzer99 01-19-2007 04:05 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
FYI - hand #1 was KT, #2 was 56. Yes I payed of course. I folded #3.


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