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snakekilla88 01-25-2007 07:26 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Alright any feedback on these hands is appreciated....

Hand1
Been tight and opponent is a reg whos been raising on button quite often.

POKERSTARS GAME #8051376219: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/01/21 - 12:06:38 (ET)
Table 'Maia III' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: snakekilla88 ($1372.10 in chips)
Seat 2: snowm8n ($202.25 in chips)
Seat 3: coopsey ($722.15 in chips)
Seat 4: PoorUser ($976.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Ceber ($564 in chips)
Seat 6: smoothlee ($230.25 in chips)
smoothlee: posts small blind $3
snakekilla88: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to snakekilla88 [Qs Kh]
snowm8n: folds
coopsey: folds
PoorUser: folds
Ceber: raises $18 to $24
smoothlee: folds
snakekilla88: raises $48 to $72
Ceber: calls $48
*** FLOP *** [Kc Td 8s]
snakekilla88: bets $108
Ceber: calls $108
*** TURN *** [Kc Td 8s] [9s]
snakekilla88: checks
Ceber: bets $200
snakekilla88: raises $992.10 to $1192.10 and is all-in


Hand2
I am running good so I make a loose preflop call. Villan is a regular who has been datamined as a loser over a pretty big sample size but has been playing pretty solid this session.
POKERSTARS GAME #8097822941: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/01/24 - 10:32:08 (ET)
Table 'Kerstin' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Psier ($858.55 in chips)
Seat 2: snakekilla88 ($2239.45 in chips)
Seat 3: pam the best ($267.10 in chips)
Seat 4: b!g_tree ($214.85 in chips)
Seat 5: Sleepy80 ($794.40 in chips)
Seat 6: ken the cow ($815 in chips)
b!g_tree: posts small blind $3
Sleepy80: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to snakekilla88 [3d 2d]
ken the cow: folds
Psier: raises $18 to $24
snakekilla88: calls $24
pam the best: folds
b!g_tree: folds
Sleepy80: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd 8d 7h]
Psier: bets $36
snakekilla88: calls $36
*** TURN *** [Qd 8d 7h] [7d]
Psier: bets $101
Sleepy80 is sitting out
snakekilla88: raises $163 to $264
Psier: raises $534.55 to $798.55 and is all-in
snakekilla88: says ughhh and calls $534.55

Hand3
POKERSTARS GAME #8098083348: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2007/01/24 - 11:01:50 (ET)
Table 'Pavo' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: catcher3333 ($1040 in chips)
Seat 2: Wyern ($1000 in chips)
Seat 3: Evergrey ($1000 in chips)
Seat 4: tires23 ($1082 in chips)
Seat 5: snakekilla88 ($1371.25 in chips)
Seat 6: xapla ($962 in chips)
snakekilla88: posts small blind $5
xapla: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to snakekilla88 [Qc Qs]
catcher3333: folds
Wyern: calls $10
Evergrey: folds
tires23: calls $10
snakekilla88: raises $45 to $55
xapla: calls $45
Wyern: calls $45
tires23: calls $45
*** FLOP *** [6s 9d Kh]
snakekilla88: bets $166
-4 opponents in the pot how often do you bet the flop here?

Hercules 01-25-2007 07:35 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Ok...funny calls part two....

You have to know that i am very laggy. I`m raising very much with hands like example one. Ok: My image is prolly worse
than horrible, i raised the last 5 hands and won without showdown...but thats still no explanation for what happened:

AMAZING!!!!

And pastorbator is right [ok, who am i to say that]...for a laggy play you almost raise ATC on the BT...

PokerStars Game #8111647170: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/25 - 06:24:52 (ET)
Table 'Roxane III' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: chikara1193 ($90 in chips)
Seat 3: miguesu ($77.35 in chips)
Seat 4: japiooooo ($32.40 in chips)
Seat 5: THESLOTHS1 ($152.95 in chips)
Seat 6: AjaxAchill ($198.10 in chips)
Seat 7: NH_TY_SIR ($81.10 in chips)
Seat 8: Agent C2 ($269.80 in chips)
Seat 9: MeBeKing ($117.95 in chips)
NH_TY_SIR: posts small blind $0.50
Agent C2: posts big blind $1
OleLucky: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AjaxAchill [Ad Ah]
MeBeKing: folds
chikara1193: folds
miguesu: raises $1 to $2
japiooooo: calls $2
THESLOTHS1: folds
AjaxAchill: raises $6 to $8
NH_TY_SIR: calls $7.50
Agent C2: folds
miguesu: calls $6
japiooooo: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [4c 9s Th]
NH_TY_SIR: checks
miguesu: checks
japiooooo: checks
AjaxAchill: bets $30
NH_TY_SIR: folds
miguesu: calls $30
japiooooo: folds
*** TURN *** [4c 9s Th] [6h]
miguesu: checks
AjaxAchill: bets $160.10 and is all-in
miguesu: calls $39.35 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4c 9s Th 6h] [7d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
miguesu: shows [7h 2c] (a pair of Sevens)
AjaxAchill: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
AjaxAchill collected $168.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $171.70 | Rake $3
Board [4c 9s Th 6h 7d]
Seat 1: chikara1193 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: miguesu showed [7h 2c] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 4: japiooooo folded on the Flop
Seat 5: THESLOTHS1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AjaxAchill (button) showed [Ad Ah] and won ($168.70) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: NH_TY_SIR (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Agent C2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: MeBeKing folded before Flop (didn't bet)

snakekilla88 01-25-2007 07:36 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
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PokerStars Game #8109110685: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/01/25 - 00:17:08 (ET)
Table 'Klonios III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 4_2_it ($194 in chips)
Seat 2: Ghostridahii ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 3: d2ton1 ($31.90 in chips)
Seat 4: AjaxAchill ($151 in chips)
Seat 5: {WC}COBRA ($110.65 in chips)
Seat 6: BigJJ99 ($69.35 in chips)
{WC}COBRA: posts small blind $0.50
BigJJ99: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to AjaxAchill [8c 3c]
4_2_it: folds
Ghostridahii: folds
d2ton1: calls $1
AjaxAchill: raises $3 to $4
{WC}COBRA: calls $3.50
BigJJ99: folds
d2ton1: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 7s 2d]
{WC}COBRA: checks
AjaxAchill: bets $7
{WC}COBRA: calls $7
*** TURN *** [2c 7s 2d] [9s]
{WC}COBRA: checks
AjaxAchill: checks
*** RIVER *** [2c 7s 2d 9s] [3h]
{WC}COBRA: bets $12
AjaxAchill: raises $12 to $24
{WC}COBRA: calls $12
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AjaxAchill: shows [8c 3c] (two pair, Threes and Deuces)
{WC}COBRA: mucks hand
AjaxAchill collected $69 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $72 | Rake $3
Board [2c 7s 2d 9s 3h]
Seat 1: 4_2_it folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Ghostridahii folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: d2ton1 folded before Flop
Seat 4: AjaxAchill (button) showed [8c 3c] and won ($69) with two pair, Threes and Deuces
Seat 5: {WC}COBRA (small blind) mucked [As Js]
Seat 6: BigJJ99 (big blind) folded before Flop

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Depends on how bad he is, but raise on river is often gonna get called by better hands and is way to thin. Also just fold this preflop.

snakekilla88 01-25-2007 07:47 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Al-
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Button ($20.35)
SB ($21.40)
BB ($7.20)
UTG ($6.35)
MP ($27.50)
Hero ($30.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, K.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, SB calls $1.15, 1 fold, UTG folds.

Flop: ($3) 9, T, 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2.

Turn: ($7) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($7) K (2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7.


[/ QUOTE ]
Well played.

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($29.15)
CO ($21.30)
Button ($31.30)
Hero ($25.65)
BB ($26.85)
UTG ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
UTG raises to $1.25, 1 fold, CO calls $1.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($9) J, A, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.5, UTG calls $6.50.

Turn: ($22) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: ($22) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, UTG calls $10.

Final Pot: $42


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At higher stakes, you sometimes check behind this turn for pot control. This is 25nl and the guy will rarely ever fold an ace and you have no reason to think your beat! So keep betting and extract value so bet like 3/4pot. As played if you are going to check turn (which I still dont reccomend at 25nl) you should bet way closer to pot on the river. You basically disguised how strong your hand is by checking turn and you are defenitely ahead so just bet more and ull get called. Like the worst move alot of people do is c/b flop check turn and bet river with air and they always get looked up light so when you have a hand make sure you get max value.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

CO ($18.95)
Button ($22.65)
SB ($12.45)
BB ($5.15)
UTG ($27.65)
Hero ($26.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold.

Flop: ($2.25) J, 6, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.75, SB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($7.75) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.25, SB folds.

Final Pot: $13


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Yeah well played. This will happen alot so dont second guess yourself. You played this very well.

[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG ($14.75)
MP ($10.30)
CO ($9.15)
Hero ($24.90)
SB ($19.90)
BB ($50.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, A.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) T, A, 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.5, SB folds, BB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($8) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($8) Q (2 players)
BB bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.

Final Pot: $11

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Why did you get scared on turn and river? Remember this is 25nl you beat worse two pair and other one pair hands that he will probally call you down with! Plus the flop is rainbow so no fd draws but bet to get value out of QJ if hes still around as well. So on turn fire again for like $6.

I hope cash is going good for you gl and I might drop down a few levels to take your money. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

Hercules 01-25-2007 07:48 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
LOL, snakezilla...do you think i raised for value????
NO WAY....i thought like 90% that i am good. I only raised for obv reasons = DONT SHOW DOWN 83s !!!
And i raised min, just to be able to get away if he has it and my read would be wrong...:)

But maybe you can comment hand two from me:) more funny...

snakekilla88 01-25-2007 07:51 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
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LOL, snakezilla...do you think i raised for value????
NO WAY....i thought like 90% that i am good. I only raised for obv reasons = DONT SHOW DOWN 83s !!!
And i raised min, just to be able to get away if he has it and my read would be wrong...:)

But maybe you can comment hand two from me:) more funny...

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This is flawed logic. If you think your good but he wont call with worse then why are you betting. Showing down 83s is fine, just remember that you showed it down and adjust to how he will view you. That other hand you pasted is WOW, add him to the buddy list for sure. Comment on my 3 hands now [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

Hercules 01-25-2007 08:52 AM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Ok snake:

Hand1: Like it if Villain is uber-aggro. Else i would say its spew.

Hand2: Against good Villain always spew...unless he calls here with trips...

Hand3: Do peple really fold KJ here? If you wanna rep AK, it can be expensive to 3 barrel, if someone does have a K. I like a check/fold in this spot more

I hate to sound that negative. And maybe i am just wrong, because i never played that high:)


about your comment "flawed logic": I didn`t want to show down 83, because i wanted to keep on stealing blinds. If i show that crap down, i can`t cbet the next ten years:). I dont want that they play back with nadda. If they raise me, i always know that i need a strong hand. But if i show that crap...i don`t get any freerolls...

Knight Vision 01-25-2007 01:15 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
Suzzer - in regard to buying in short, this is a good read.

snakekilla88 01-25-2007 01:18 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
wow Herc sounds like I am the spew master thanks for the advice!

Pasterbator 01-25-2007 02:27 PM

Re: STTF SNG->cash thread
 
To all of the hands that were posted in this thread,


Holy [censored] post it in SSNL. You need help.


Also, i was KIDDING with the hercules 83s hand. I recommend giving your money to a homeless person if you're gonna play the hand like that. It will go to better use.


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