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pureklas 11-26-2007 04:21 PM

1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
Villain is 40/10/0.7/60hands

Felt as villain limped he was on a weak Ace so bet turn as the Q only makes KJ and QT. i would have folded to a raise here. On the river I am not sure if a worse hand calls a bet so should I check here or bet/fold?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $304.52
CO: $314.40
Hero: $503.68
SB: $469.95
BB: $72.08

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $10</font>, SB folds, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($31, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $22</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($75, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $52</font>, CO calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($179, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero??

kaby 11-26-2007 04:24 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
always value bet here

114$ish?

maybe that prizes us in for a call when he raises but there is soooooooooo much value in betting here ... every ace is calling

also i bet 71$ on turn or something like that *edit* and 29$ on flop


*edit2* yes i know this is a dry flop but when he has a hand he'll call you anyway ... and you want 150bb in at the river so 2/3rd of pot isnt going to cut it

(when you miss this flop _vs these players_, that's a good spot to bet 22$

and yes i know giving away the strenght of your hand with bet size is terrible but it doesn't matter vs fish so who cares ... BB is never bluffraising with CO yet to act anyway, even if he is paying attention/a decent regular)

Igloo9 11-26-2007 04:27 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
cant see how 6 helps his hand...if you were beat i think you would hear about it on turn...value bet here...I bet more on flop against 2 even though no draws.

pureklas 11-26-2007 04:28 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
Dont like your bet sizing at all Kaby. Your commiting yourself way too much in the hand. You have to leave yourself room to get away from the hand. We have tptk lets not get crazy. That flop is so dry I am never betting 29 there. I may have underbet the turn but I am not almost never going to pot it.

kaby 11-26-2007 04:30 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
why wouldn't i want 150bb in the pot vs a calling station with top pair top kicker?

bb is folding 95% of the time anyway - focus on getting the fish money, and that means make sure you get 300bb in the pot by the river

Nielsio 11-26-2007 04:37 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
Bet/fold $90.

orange 11-26-2007 06:34 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
bet 88-99 and fold to a shove.

kaby 11-26-2007 06:36 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
what hand is calling 95$ that isn't calling 110$? :/

Nielsio 11-26-2007 06:38 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
[ QUOTE ]
what hand is calling 95$ that isn't calling 110$? :/

[/ QUOTE ]


You also have to factor in the times we're being trapped.

kaby 11-26-2007 06:43 PM

Re: 1/2: 150bb Deep: Anyone value bet/fold river?
 
yeah because 40/10/.7's trap all the time

i think you all have a huge leak when you don't get as much bb as possible in (preferably stacks if &lt;170ish bb deep) with tptk on this board vs a huge station


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