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blaqeyez 09-23-2007 08:53 PM

NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
No PT stats, no real reads.....

3rd raise prefold is almost always AA no?

ARRRR INNNN or LAY Down?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $49.90
BB: $176.45
UTG: $85.00
UTG+1: $100.85
MP1: $162.40
MP2: $51.35
MP3: $108.70
Hero (CO): $271.00
BTN: $113.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (9 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $4.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $15.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">MP3 raises to $39.00</font>, Hero calls $24.00

Flop: ($79.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP3 bets $69.00</font>

HERO:????

Pot Size: $148.50

chopsticks 09-23-2007 08:55 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
With 100bb I would push preflop.

Johnes Benjamin 09-23-2007 09:25 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
If you are committing I think this line is better than pushing pre. At least you will sometimes get people betting worse on flop OOP; preflop only aces will call.

I'm really lost here with no info on villain.
If you are feeling lucky go for it

[Phill] 09-23-2007 09:25 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
Id push preflop whilst saying "if you got AA, take my stack fella".

Fwiw, youll see villains holding AK, JJ+ and other random crap like that which they shouldnt have.

Fwiw, i dont hate your call pre and i do it sometimes to change my game up on occassion, but id much rather have AA than KK when doing so.

Shove pre, what happens happens.

Vince. 09-23-2007 09:27 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
If Hero has QQ is this a standard fold pre-flop?

ship_it_trebek 09-23-2007 09:31 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If Hero has QQ is this a standard fold pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

Without reads or stats you have to respect it as KK, AA more than AK or anything else.

radradrad 09-23-2007 09:43 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
I call the $69.
No I don't think QQ is a "standard" fold, but I'd be much more likely to fold a QQ.

Johnes Benjamin 09-23-2007 09:43 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If Hero has QQ is this a standard fold pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

i would say so, and most definitely on the flop

its borderline as it is

chopsticks 09-23-2007 09:49 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If Hero has QQ is this a standard fold pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

In full ring its pretty standard to fold QQ here. If you face a superlag that moves all-in with AK/AQ/JJ alot and tricky slowplays AA/KK you should consider calling but otherwise youre almost always behind villains range. I've called a push probably about 5 times with QQ preflop (not including calls against minstacks, supertilters etc) and those calls have been based purely on reads of some certain villains. NL100 is still passive so QQ is not a quality hand after it faces a 4-bet.

CalledDownLight 09-23-2007 10:22 PM

Re: NL100 - KK, Arrrrrr IN or Fold?
 
I don't particularly like your fold.


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