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Bond18 09-19-2007 03:47 AM

Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
Recently LFTV went quite deep in the second chance WCOOP short handed event.

Here's the Link:

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/HA84095/LFTV%206%20max/8550

grafyx 09-19-2007 09:27 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
I watched the first 100 so far.

I'm interested in your thought process behind attempting a bluff in hand 25 vs this player - I don't have any knowledge of this guys game, just saw hand 6 which makes me not want to try a cr bluff.

LearnedfromTV 09-19-2007 09:59 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
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I watched the first 100 so far.

I'm interested in your thought process behind attempting a bluff in hand 25 vs this player - I don't have any knowledge of this guys game, just saw hand 6 which makes me not want to try a cr bluff.

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Yeah, I just decided he had an 8 between only calling flop and then betting so small on the turn and my instinct was to make him fold it. I think I c-r'ed too small for that purpose though, for this or any player. I'm also pretty sure I hadn't seen/processed that hand with gank where he called a similar turn raise w/ middle pair on a worse board for middle pair.

LearnedfromTV 09-19-2007 10:06 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
Everyone,

One of the reasons I wanted Bond to post this one is it's like the tenth time I've gone deep in something fairly big and finished like 8th-20th. Part of the problem is I always make it to the final 25 or whatever with a small to medium stack and then lose a flip and busto. I don't know why that is, and in smaller tournaments, both buyin and field size, I usually get to final tables with big stacks.

Anyway, I wanted people who usually have big stacks when they make it deep to look for any spots that I miss in the final couple hours.

ZeeJustin 09-19-2007 11:02 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
I really hope you were sitting out on hand 47.

LearnedfromTV 09-19-2007 11:12 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
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I really hope you were sitting out on hand 47.

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heh...

PokerStars Game #12058111715: Tournament #70002001, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/09/14 - 17:46:26 (ET)
Table '70002001 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: javahound (4910 in chips)
Seat 3: gank (2120 in chips)
Seat 4: AnalAce (2735 in chips)
Seat 5: Entropy xx (2305 in chips)
Seat 6: bonzo9876 (5930 in chips)
javahound: posts small blind 25
gank: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Entropy xx [Qh Kc]
AnalAce: folds
Entropy xx has timed out
Entropy xx: folds
Entropy xx is sitting out
bonzo9876: folds
Entropy xx has returned
javahound: calls 25
gank: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ts 5c Ah]
javahound: checks
gank: checks
*** TURN *** [Ts 5c Ah] [Tc]
javahound: checks
gank: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ts 5c Ah Tc] [Qs]
javahound: checks
gank: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
javahound: shows [Kd 9s] (a pair of Tens)
gank: shows [5d 6s] (two pair, Tens and Fives)
gank collected 100 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 100 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 5c Ah Tc Qs]
Seat 2: javahound (small blind) showed [Kd 9s] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 3: gank (big blind) showed [5d 6s] and won (100) with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 4: AnalAce folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Entropy xx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: bonzo9876 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


I think there was one other hand like this. My internet connection was bad for part of the day.

ZeeJustin 09-19-2007 11:30 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
For the most part, you played too tight for my liking, but fine, that's your style. Here are the hands I really had problems with:

177: Shove all day. You are so far ahead of his range.
234: Call all-in.
272: Let's see. 13 + .5 + .4 + .8 +2.2 = 16.9k in the pot, 12.6k to call. Haven't been watching his play, but I wouldn't fold unless he's a super super nit. Against lots of players, you are actually ahead of their range here. It's pretty hard to be far behind their range with only 15x BB. I would call.
278: Flipping your hand face up and then annoucning all-in would be a better play than folding. I'd shove despite having over 10x BB.
283: Reshove.
293: Another hand where you could profitably flip your hand face up and then move all-in. Folding in these spots is criminal.
314: Way too weak. You could reraise preflop. YOu could lead the flop. You could check call. Check raise. All better than the way you played it IMO.
415: Another profitable face up shove spot. I would raise and call a reraise all-in.

Edit: Other than this, you missed a bunch of steal spots I would take, and one or two resteal spots, but like I said above, those are style issues.

LearnedfromTV 09-19-2007 11:52 AM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
Are you sure about the 22 hand? Especially the faceup part. It's not just more than 10bb, it's 19 and all three behind me cover. Someone has a bigger pair 17% of the time.

The 55 hand, there had been some chat about the series of reshoves. There was ~ zero chance rabscuttle was folding, and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have raised without a hand. Shoving anyway is probably the exact type of thing that I need to do to accumulate chips.

LearnedfromTV 09-19-2007 12:18 PM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
Justin (and others), what do you think about hands 149 and 378?

ZeeJustin 09-19-2007 01:37 PM

Re: Official review thread, LearnedfromTV
 
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Justin (and others), what do you think about hands 149 and 378?

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I don't like the turn bet in 149. It looks so weak. I wouldn't be surprised if you had the best hand even after the turn check raise.

Hand 378 is odd, and he could just have a draw, but I think a pair and a draw is more likely than that. I would fold like you did.


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