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spyu 08-26-2007 10:50 PM

10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
This is live. Hero has about 6k, villain covers. Villain is a solid, pretty conservative player both Pre and Post flop. Villain views me pretty much the same way I view him.
9 handed game has been pretty tame.

PF: Hero limps UTG w/ 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], CO calls, Button raises to 120, Villain in SB calls, BB folds, Hero calls, CO calls. 4 players.

Flop (490): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Villain bets 260, Hero calls, CO & Button fold.

Turn (1010): 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Villain bets 500, Hero calls.

River (2010): 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Villain checks, Hero....

My read was that the hands he would have and bet up until the river like this are 66 & 8s-Js.

My question is should I value bet the river here? If so how much? Also is it better to raise on flop or turn and if so how much and why? What do you put villain on?
Thanks.

RickOSU 08-27-2007 01:50 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
yes value bet, 1/2 pot.

checking back this river would be missing a lot of value imo.

FoxwoodsFiend 08-27-2007 02:17 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
preflop is awful, raise the turn as played bet river about 1600

FoxwoodsFiend 08-27-2007 02:20 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
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Also is it better to raise on flop or turn and if so how much and why? What do you put villain on?
Thanks.

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raise turn because you want to see what others do on the flop and raising w/others behind is way more likely to scare him off. w/these small bets he's got like A8/99-JJ here a lot of the time

ike 08-27-2007 06:04 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
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preflop is awful, raise the turn as played bet river about 1600

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all these things are true.

freeucm 08-27-2007 06:05 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
Is it too passive to check behind on river?

jfish 08-27-2007 06:55 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
not sure how i feel about a turn raise, but i would vb river 1500.

AZK 08-27-2007 09:11 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
if you are playing 64 like this, yes.

Go_Blue88 08-27-2007 10:24 AM

Re: 10-20 Too passive w/ bottom 2?
 
preflop is really bad--makes no sense to me.

once ur HU w/ Villian, i'd raise the turn. having said that, i'm certainly not an expert on deep stack play.


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