880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

Other dude in the hand is whom i view "the table fish". He is 30/11/0.5 over 144 hands, not awful, but not great. I know i got the $$ but does anyone have any advice as to any other way to play it? I went for the flop CR but the PFR checked behind(doh). The turn comes an Ace so i figure he now has a pair and will bet if checked to again, thats the reasoning for checking the turn.


FullTiltPoker Game #1154392839: Table Edgewood (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:12:04 ET - 2006/10/26
Seat 1: justpoker69 ($436.60)
Seat 2: CABOWABO23 ($93.20), is sitting out
Seat 3: HeyImGay ($101.50)
Seat 4: nanochip ($97)
Seat 5: SuburbanSpade ($141.05)
Seat 6: jimmyhat1000 ($437.30)
jimmyhat1000 posts the small blind of $0.50
justpoker69 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jimmyhat1000 [8c 8h]
HeyImGay raises to $4
nanochip folds
SuburbanSpade folds
jimmyhat1000 calls $3.50
justpoker69 calls $3
*** FLOP *** [Th 3s 8s]
jimmyhat1000 checks
justpoker69 checks
HeyImGay checks
*** TURN *** [Th 3s 8s] [Ad]
jimmyhat1000 checks
justpoker69 checks
HeyImGay bets $6
jimmyhat1000 raises to $30
justpoker69 calls $30
HeyImGay folds
*** RIVER *** [Th 3s 8s Ad] [Ts]
jimmyhat1000 checks
justpoker69 bets $209
jimmyhat1000 raises to $403.30, and is all in
justpoker69 calls $193.60, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.70 returned to jimmyhat1000
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jimmyhat1000 shows [8c 8h] (a full house, Eights full of Tens)
justpoker69 mucks
jimmyhat1000 wins the pot ($880.20) with a full house, Eights full of Tens
justpoker69 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $883.20 | Rake $3
Board: [Th 3s 8s Ad Ts]
Seat 1: justpoker69 (big blind) mucked [3c 3d] - a full house, Threes full of Tens
Seat 2: CABOWABO23 is sitting out
Seat 3: HeyImGay folded on the Turn
Seat 4: nanochip didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: SuburbanSpade (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jimmyhat1000 (small blind) showed [8c 8h] and won ($880.20) with a full house, Eights full of Tens

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $101.50
CO: $97
Button: $141.05
PLEASE USE A CONVERTER: $437.30
BB: $436.60

Pre-flop: (5 players) PLEASE USE A CONVERTER is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, PLEASE USE A CONVERTER calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
PLEASE USE A CONVERTER checks, BB checks, UTG checks.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12, 3 players)
PLEASE USE A CONVERTER checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">PLEASE USE A CONVERTER raises to $30</font>, BB calls, UTG folds.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($78, 2 players)
PLEASE USE A CONVERTER checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $209</font>, <font color="#cc0000">PLEASE USE A CONVERTER raises all-in $403.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $193.6</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.7 returned to PLEASE USE A CONVERTER.

Results:
Final pot: $883.2



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Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

Leading the turn isn't bad either. You'll end up getting raised by a ton of Ax hands and you can then 3bet or call and donk the river. I doubt you're losing too much value by leading instead of c/ring the turn (which implies much more strength).

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

you lose value by not leading flop.

a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] falling will often kill your action

there's also str8 draws

draws will only pay you off, if there's more streets to come..... once they missed, they fold..... so start early

also, many other hands call flop lead.... and hopefully you get rr-ed by pfr-er w AT or overpair

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

bet flop

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

Before I saw results, I put him on the nut flush...I dont mind (read: like it alot) your play, but sometimes he is going to have a donked FH.

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

bet the flop

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

sorry about converter problems (i am a newbie fish). the main part of the hand i wanted advice on was the river play. After the fish cold calls the turn c/raise i figured he had the nut flush draw, or maybe cause hes a fish just an Ace. What does everyone do on the river given stack sizes?? I can value bet and hope to get called by an Ace but if i bet say $50 he MIGHT only just call with a flush cause we are so deep. But if i check he bets any flush and maybe an Ace and i get to make a decent sized check raise which he might call, if anyone bets the river why and if anyone checks the river for reasons other than ive stated why, cheers.

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

no your check with an intent to raise all-in is good. a bet probably doesn't get called by any hand that he wouldn't bet himself when checked to.

Re: 880bb pot at 100nl - i know i got the $$, but advice
 

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Before I saw results, I put him on the nut flush...I dont mind (read: like it alot) your play, but sometimes he is going to have a donked FH.

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He has played his hand exactly like a passive player plays his Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] He never checks that behind and cant put you on a FH.