50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 PL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BTN): $40.05
SB: $72.95
BB: $98.20
UTG: $52.95
CO: $72.05

Pre-Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $3.60</font>, Hero calls $1.85

Flop: ($7.45) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $3.70</font>, Hero calls $3.70

Turn: ($14.85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.40</font>, BB calls $7.40

River: ($29.65) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.80</font>

I have seen this villain call a flop b3bai with MP, but his opponent (SB) had two overs and no draw, so maybe that was situational. He doesn't seem awful.

I'm short because I called down that same opponent (SB) with TP2K when he had aces recently, and am waiting until I calm down to rebuy. I'm not super-tilty, but I usually impose a cool-off period after a big pot where I did something marginal and lost.

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

I would say this is very standard value bet since it was a 3bet pot which changes things a bunch regarding hand ranges. Would nice to be able to know what his vpip/preflop raise % is then we could estimate his hand range down to an even smaller range, but since he made that tiny 3bet preflop, I would assume he isn't going to be 3betting a lot of hands, which eliminates a lot of the hands you are afraid of (88, 87).

Bet and pray he makes a hero call with QQ.

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

He was 40/10/2.8 over 47 hands. I had not seen him do a lot of 3betting, so I thought he had a pretty tight range. I made the bet expecting to see QQ, as you suggest, though by the river I'm beating AK,AA too, but I don't see how he has those hands the way he played it.

It is precisely the fact that I'm trying to extract value from such a narrow range of hands- basically just QQ - that makes me think this is thin.

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

I don't steal with K7o otb against a loose BB very often. Flop is fine. On the turn I bet more so if he calls with KQ, AK, possibly AA, I can shove an 8 or a 3 turn. So, I bet 10-12. River bet is fine.

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

I think CRAI river is better option

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

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I think CRAI river is better option

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we're IP.


op, vbet seems std

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

Fold pre-flop though.


This is pretty thin. Depends a lot on his 3betting range IMO.

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

Results: he has QQ and makes the hero call. Good read.

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

WTF @ this being thin? This is totally standard and I'm betting KQ here

Re: 50PL: K7o Steal -> good thin vbet or idiocy?
 

i think turn is a lot thinner than river which seems standard.