2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

villain is mostly unknown to me was seems to be a little wild... he has raised pre like half of his hands in the first 2 orbits, thats the extent of our experience... no1 has showed anything weird... trust me i wish i had played more w/ this guy.


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

SB ($1980)
BB ($2342.46)
UTG ($3002)
MP ($1303)
Hero ($3288)
Button ($4172)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $50</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $30.

Flop: ($160) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $125</font>, Hero calls $125, BB folds.

Turn: ($410) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $350</font>, Hero calls $350.

River: ($1110) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG calls $2477 (All-In).


ok, so the turn and river is just mixing it up/ inducing a bluff/etc... i had the feeling that this guy was pretty aggro so i wanted to let him bluff/ VB thin... i was planning on pushing over another 3/4 bet but then he shoves and im not sure i like my hand so much...

pay this off or make a huge laydown?

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

I'm calling.

Edit: Gah, missed out on the straight completing (again..). Makes it tricker; I would have called if river was K, now I don't really know.

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

i think this is a fold and even i call too much on the riv.

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

man...tough hand. i definitely expect a straight a decent amount. because of the overbet, you're not getting very good odds. i think it may be time for a big laydown. then again, you tried to induce a bluff...so you may have. tough hand.

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

[ QUOTE ]
I'm calling.

Edit: Gah, missed out on the straight completing (again..). Makes it tricker; I would have called if river was K, now I don't really know.

[/ QUOTE ]

what diff does K vs Q make?

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

J9 obv

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

I reluctantly call this, probably rationalizing to my self that id end up putting the money in anyways if i had come over top of his river bet. Still, not a very good rationalization.

If your opponent is a novice with the keyboard or mouse, he might have accidently punched an allin in. He might even be grossly overplaying 2pair, or doing some retardo move with KK. We cant really tell. He is an unknown, and unknowns do tend to be donks.

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

Maybe it's the opposite, but his 3/4 flop and turn bets look defensive to me, while the river overbet looks like he wants a call. If I felt like that was the case at the time, I fold.

I can see him having AQ here as easily as J9. It sucks giving your chips to unk's who play wild and get there. Which is why I consistently play flop/turn faster than I used too.

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

[ QUOTE ]
J9 obv

[/ QUOTE ]

meh. QJ was double gutter, and he leads flop with it.

Re: 2K6m. bottom set facing a big river push.
 

Yes, but you have to think the other way around as well; he isn't FEARING J9 here, and he should, since it's a very likely hand for us, whereas QJ is much more unlikely for us to have given our flop call.

Also, given our passive line, I think he could very well be valuepushing AK should river be a K.