NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

This spot really confused me. Villain in this hand is 11/1/1.4 over 250 hands. His bet really looks like he's trying to see a cheap showdown with a middle pair. But would someone with these stats really do that? Would he ever call a shove with worse here?


OnGame's Room No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP1 ($137.05)
MP2 ($120.60)
CO ($119.25)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($174.50)</font>
SB ($10.40)
BB ($217.65)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($142.95)</font>
UTG+1 ($228.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, UTG calls $8.

Turn: ($27.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $19</font>, UTG calls $19.

River: ($65.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $22</font>, Hero ?

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

call

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

have to call

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

You are getting 4 to 1, easy call

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

With Kings, I shove here for sure. Queens makes it a lot closer.

Wait, wtf is going on? $2BB semi-shallow or $1BB semi-deep?

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

With those stats he must be limping AA/KK/AK UTG at least sometimes, so it's a bigger pair enough for shoving to be bad. You might get looked up by JJ but iirc you play pretty tight yourself so I doubt it, more likely you'll just impale yourself on a flush or some other horror.

Personally I don't think I shove with KK bc I don't think QQ looks you up often enough either.

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

Shoving is bad. Against this nitty opponent, everything that you beat folds. A simple call will do.

Re: NL100: QQ donked into onto river
 

It is 100NL. The converter messed up, so we are semi-deep.
Hero has been running at 14/11/3.5 if this helps