50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

Villain 40/15/2, small sample. Seems a bit of a drooler.

Meh, no idea what's going on here. Would you do anything differently on turn or river?

Initially, I thought vb/f river might be more EV than c/c or c/f because 22-77/99-TT are a larger part of his range than QQ+/8x.

But the problem is I'm really not sure how a, say, $10 or $12 vb effects our EV the times we are behind. Furthermore, I think we have to consider the times we check river and he bets a smaller amount as a bluff or with a worse hand and we can call/win: if we bet river, we sometimes lose those bets, right?

Does that even make sense? lol.


Thanks.

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saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button <font color="#C00000">Button ($50.25)</font>
SB ($9.50)
BB ($32.27)
UTG ($30.75)
UTG+1 Hero ($99.40)
CO ($41.60)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
1 fold, <font color="red">Hero raises to 2</font> , 1 fold, <font color="red">Button calls 2</font> , 2 folds.

Flop (4.75) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero bets 3.25</font>, <font color="red">Button calls 3.25</font> .

Turn (11.25) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero checks</font>, </font>Button bets 4.50</font>, <font color="red"> Hero calls 4.50</font>.

River (20.25) 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red"> Hero checks</font>, <font color="red">Button bets 14</font>, 1 fold

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

against this guy I probably checrkraise the turn. As playedma blocker bet on the river is the best option I can think of.

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

I don't know if this is a call or a fold sorry

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

id fire again on turn. Probably a b/f unless you think villian is aggro w/ like small-mid PP, 5x hands, draws, and overs. We've shown soo much weakness on turn/river that villian could just be bluffin...personally i dont like c/c just makes us seem so weak but it does alow him to bluff/bet weaker hands so river might be a call

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

Looks good except for call river please.

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

bet again on the turn. check raising would be dumb.

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

what do you guys put villain on w/ the flop call?

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

I think this river is a definite call. There are so many "you check to me? I bet!" type villains.

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

I definitely think you need to call this river mainly because of the way you played the hand. Like some of the other said, I really think a raise on the turn would have helped out quite a bit.

Re: 50NL: I go all passive with JJ oop
 

I call this river, this is exactly the kind of villain thats on a bluff or overplaying a hand here a lot of the time.