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Toronto86er 09-29-2007 10:39 PM

AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
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UTG+1 (t19995)
MP1 (t29165)
Hero (t50450)
CO (t6270)
Button (t31395)
SB (t36786)
BB (t50609)
UTG (t24565)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2400</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t1600.

Flop: (t4525) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t4800</font>, BB calls t3200.

Turn: (t14125) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t11000</font>, BB calls t11000.

River: (t36125) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ...

I'm fairly new to the table, and have been on a card run that probably makes me look like a maniac since I haven't shown anything down yet. I've been making lots of c-bets and flop raises with what turns out to be the best hand every time (big pairs, TPTK etc).

Villain is also very LAG, having slowed down a little bit recently. His flop bet is his way of playing back at me, and he could either be on a weak ace, maybe a king, or maybe a FD or JQ or something like that.

Can I value bet this river, and if so for how much?

Toronto86er 09-30-2007 02:25 PM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
nobody? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Is anyone in the $3 rebuy really tricky enough to check a hand that beats me here?

omg im l337 10-08-2007 02:13 AM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
I'll give it a shot, but I'm a newbie. I would just check the river. I would not bet here, it might be a trap.

Wemserstylez 10-08-2007 02:35 AM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
i also think check behind is the best choice here.

What kind of hands does he call with that u have beat.
Even its a 3$ i don not think that worse hands are calling here so i see no value in a bet.

erc007 10-08-2007 03:03 AM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
Pretty sure he's not checking a flush/FH here, he might c/c with a flush/trips since the river paired the board and u have been so aggro betting this hand. If u can think of a logical part of his range (AQ;AJ, etc.) that can call 10-12K then maybe bet, but if u do it has to be bet/fold. I can't think of enough hands that can call down on this board that we beat, so i check behind here.

levAA 10-08-2007 04:04 AM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
Well played - check behind on the river.

Soulman 10-08-2007 07:25 AM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
Bet 20k or so on river, call push.

Pokerfarian 10-08-2007 08:28 AM

Re: AKs for top 2 pair vs LAG; $3+R
Very tricky spot. Default is probably check behind, but in a 3R I can see him calling a bet with Ax here a decent amount. Overall, I think it's very close but I like a bet because I don't see much that you lose to except a flush draw &amp; he donks that a lot on the river, whilst this + river call of a ~20K bet is a fairly "standard" line for 3R players to take with Ax. Having a table image of a maniac might be the thing that slightly tilts it this way, I certainly wouldnt need much of a read the other way to check behind.

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