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happyhour456 05-18-2007 09:18 AM

NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
villain 21/20/5/15 190 hands, att to steal 39

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $460.05
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $684.65</font>
UTG: $85.60
MP: $77.00
CO: $352.55
BTN: $80.00

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, SB calls $16.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($48) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, SB calls $32.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($112) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $67.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $200.00</font>, Hero calls $133.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($512) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $205.00</font>, SB calls all-in for $204.05
Uncalled bet of $0.95 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $920.10 ($3 Rake)

comments please

cakewalk 05-18-2007 09:20 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
river seems bad. id probably just shove the turn and be happy.

happyhour456 05-18-2007 09:24 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
after the turn raise i definitly put him on AK.

Hanzfat 05-18-2007 09:38 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
Shove the turn. The rare times he has you beat you are gonna have to pay him. You need to extract value from the drawing hands ie JQ, KQ. He can easily be making a move here in BOB or have a lower T or draw, and board is too dangerous to slow play.

creative 05-18-2007 09:49 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
i agree w/everyone shove turn

happyhour456 05-18-2007 10:00 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
on which hand you put villain on?

muddydog 05-18-2007 10:18 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
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on which hand you put villain on?

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I think you'll see AK a lot in this spot, crying call on the river hoping you check it down.

I think he's more likely to have AK than specifically KQ, although you might be coolered with this line with a hand like JJ or QQ. Honestly on the turn the only real hands you can beat or an overplayed KK or AA, I don't see a underpair getting this far unless he's a real donk. If your read is that he is a strong player you might fold here, but based on his stats he looks so aggressive that I think you have to play this one through. I wouldn't be surprised to see a better full house here or AK.

aceDeuceWes 05-18-2007 11:51 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
I think shoving the turn is the worst option, we would basically be bluffing. He folds every worse hand and calls with everything better except maybe T9. We shouldn't be to worried about KQ because it only has 6 outs, and an A would be a great card. And he doesn't have AA or KK here unless he is terrible.

Edit: And bet 85-95 on the turn as well.

OMGTILTING 05-18-2007 11:52 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
why are you betting river?

muddydog 05-18-2007 11:57 AM

Re: NL200 - deep stacks, flop trips, sb vs BB
 
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why are you betting river?

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I think you bet the river because he's got to figure you'll be priced into a call here, and would want to get max value out of his full house if he had it but he doesn't bet. This line sounds like AK that doesn't want any more money to go in but will call if you bet. It might be thin but I think you're making money on this bet.


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