The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

I'm going to ask a simple question in a poll and then ask those who voted to elaborate on their views.

i'm going to purposefully make this pole extreme in its responses to get a sense for the polarized viewpoints

if you love the fed (and think we are way better off with it), please say why and cite evidence to prove your point.

if you hate the fed (and think we are going to hell in a handbasket thanks to the fed's horrible existance, please say why and cite evidence to prove your point)

this poll will be posted in the BFI forum as well.

Thanks,
Barron

Re: The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

Hate it.

Money is just another good. There is no "right" amount of money in the market just like there is no "right" amount of wheat grown, oil pumped out of the ground, or toothpaste put into tubes. Central planning in the supply of money will ultimately fail just as central planning in any other good would.

Re: The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

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I'm going to ask a simple question in a poll and then ask those who voted to elaborate on their views.

i'm going to purposefully make this pole extreme in its responses to get a sense for the polarized viewpoints

if you love the fed (and think we are way better off with it), please say why and cite evidence to prove your point.

if you hate the fed (and think we are going to hell in a handbasket thanks to the fed's horrible existance, please say why and cite evidence to prove your point)

this poll will be posted in the BFI forum as well.

Thanks,
Barron

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Hate the fed. Interest rates should free float. Market should function uninterrupted. No interruptions can have societally beneficial results.

What Government Has Done to our Money

Case Against the Fed

America's Great Depression

Re: The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

It might be a little results oriented, but I like the Fed because it has been successful. Since the Depression, there has not been a severe economic downturn (defined by joblessness and GNP) or unmanageable inflation. The economy has functioned particulary well over the last 20 years.

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It might be a little results oriented, but I like the Fed because it has been successful. Since the Depression, there has not been a severe economic downturn (defined by joblessness and GNP) or unmanageable inflation. The economy has functioned particulary well over the last 20 years.

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similarly, look at what happens when we back money with something we can't move like gold. the argument that any fiat based system must fail b/c it has int he past can also be used against any non-fiat based monetary system. every commodity based system has also failed.

human being are irrational in many instances and their irrationality are the causes for business cycles (they 'we' extrapolate recent past trends into the future). unchecked, these mistakes pile up and lead to massive swings in economic indicators and economies in general.

looking at business cycle amplitude is a good indicator of that. booms and busts have been far less impactful (i.e. the economy absorbs them better) than they likely otherwise would be.

further, you can make a perfect foolproof case against the fed, but the fact remains, the alternatives are worse.

the fed is the worst possible option, except for all the others.

Barron

Re: The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

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It might be a little results oriented, but I like the Fed because it has been successful. Since the Depression, there has not been a severe economic downturn (defined by joblessness and GNP) or unmanageable inflation. The economy has functioned particulary well over the last 20 years.

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similarly, look at what happens when we back money with something we can't move like gold. the argument that any fiat based system must fail b/c it has int he past can also be used against any non-fiat based monetary system. every commodity based system has also failed.

human being are irrational in many instances and their irrationality are the causes for business cycles (they 'we' extrapolate recent past trends into the future). unchecked, these mistakes pile up and lead to massive swings in economic indicators and economies in general.

looking at business cycle amplitude is a good indicator of that. booms and busts have been far less impactful (i.e. the economy absorbs them better) than they likely otherwise would be.

further, you can make a perfect foolproof case against the fed, but the fact remains, the alternatives are worse.

the fed is the worst possible option, except for all the others.

Barron

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The fed and fiat system are not co-dependent.

Further, the fed and fiat money are wrong, not only because the empirical evidence works against them, but because they're theoretically flawed. More so for the fed than fiat money.

What net benefit do we get from distorting interest rates? What net benefit do we get from bailing out lenders who are deemed not credible? Do you support there being a gaming fed that bails out sites that cant meet their demands?

The only beneficiaries are minorities who exploit the privileges granted by the fed and those that take advantage of the non-uniform dispersion of liquidity.



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you would really benefit from some reading on austrian theory and the trade cycle.

Re: The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

Hate it.

Coercive monopolies are a [censored] scam and I hate them forever.

Re: The Federal Reserve: Love it or Hate it
 

Love it and fiat currency. Without the latter we would be stuck with a mid-20th century economy, without the Fed to dampen volatility risk premiums would be higher tightening both credit and equity capital.

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It might be a little results oriented, but I like the Fed because it has been successful. Since the Depression, there has not been a severe economic downturn (defined by joblessness and GNP) or unmanageable inflation. The economy has functioned particulary well over the last 20 years.

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Sorry iron this is silly reasoning. The Fed has been around since 1913.

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The only beneficiaries are minorities who exploit the privileges granted by the fed and those that take advantage of the non-uniform dispersion of liquidity.


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Yes, and we all know who THEY are.