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Shandrax 10-14-2006 08:09 AM

Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
I mean, isn't it just a waste of time? Reminds me of my dad, who worked hard to enjoy his retirement one day and then he died with 69.

MidGe 10-14-2006 08:14 AM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
It probably makes sense till you die, depending on what you value, and then it doesn't matter anymore.

madnak 10-14-2006 08:48 AM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
Why are you working hard and studying?

Darryl_P 10-14-2006 09:02 AM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
We will die, but we'll have kids who live on, and they'll (hopefully) have kids and so on. Each generation is potentially an improvement over the last, so you can think of them as a newer and improved you. Only the you in its current form dies. The you in its new and improved form lives on, and the improvements may continue forever. That's a good reason to work hard IMO.

txag007 10-14-2006 09:46 AM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
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I mean, isn't it just a waste of time? Reminds me of my dad, who worked hard to enjoy his retirement one day and then he died with 69.

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Great question! Let me extend it a little further: If you are just a product of time and chance, what is the source of your self-esteem? Why have self-esteem at all if you are no different than a dog?

madnak 10-14-2006 10:04 AM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
Because I can kick the dog's ass. Damn dog.

Prodigy54321 10-14-2006 10:22 AM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
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I mean, isn't it just a waste of time? Reminds me of my dad, who worked hard to enjoy his retirement one day and then he died with 69.

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Great question! Let me extend it a little further: If you are just a product of time and chance, what is the source of your self-esteem? Why have self-esteem at all if you are no different than a dog?

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1) "..no different than a dog"???..in what capacity?

2) I would get no self esteem from knowing that I am a slave to another being who demands that I worship him..I do, however get satisfaction from knowing that I am serving people that do exist and are not so cruel that they would demand worship over serving other humans in order to stroke their fragile ego

OP I think the answer is simple...you work hard (and study) to help you gain things in life that make you happy...death is inevitable, but we still enjoy being happy in the present or near future.

also as long as we're asking "better" questions that attack atheism or theism...

Does it make sense to work hard (and study) if you will be granted infinite happiness for all eternity when you die?

txag007 10-14-2006 01:02 PM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
infinite happiness?

do you think that's what heaven is?

Prodigy54321 10-14-2006 01:48 PM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
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infinite happiness?

do you think that's what heaven is?

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yes, please tell me why I'm wrong..

well I don't actually think that it is, but popular arguments for theism rely heavily on heaven meaning infinite happiness..such as pascal's wager

FortunaMaximus 10-14-2006 01:51 PM

Re: Does it make sense to work hard and study if you die in the end?
 
I hope not, personally, if such a state of existence is valid.

Although I confess, I'm curious. How do you perceive heaven to be then?

I find the organization and structure of angels and similar to be fascinating, especially the hierarchy of angels.


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