2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $398.10
UTG: $400
MP: $835.65
CO: $586
Hero (BTN): $429
SB: $406.40

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB calls $14, BB folds

Flop: ($36) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $90</font>, hero thinks he should fold

villian is a 19/15, not devoid of creativity but not a great winner probably, doesn't seem to do much so far. We haven't tangled.

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

probably marginal either way but I'm fine with a fold

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

I think standard should be folding this. There might be a decent amount of hands he would fold to a 3-bet, but there are probably a lot of strong draws and some made hands he will stick it in with too. I don't think calling this is an option because you don't have many outs you are HAPPY to get it in with and villan is likely to fire the turn also.

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

Probably a fold, yeah. Does anybody like calling and making a move at hearts+we have the six straight outs that are live, likely eight outs.

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

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Does anybody like calling and making a move at hearts+we have the six straight outs that are live, likely eight outs.

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exactly the same think i was thinking

the question is if villian is able to fold a monster if a heart hits

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

can someone give me a poker 101 about what the massive disadvantage to calling is here?

thx

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

we have 6 outs we are happy with and we cant call another bet

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

I'm happy folding this depending on villian. 19/15 is pretty nittish.

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

fold&gt;&gt;&gt;shove&gt;=call

Re: 2/4 Hand, Blind war v tag
 

fwiw i would probably fold out of position with a hand like this, but i just can't imagine folding here with position+outs vs a fairly small raise and an aggro villain.