Calldown with 99
 

Villain is 46/9/0.66

Absolute Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.66 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.33 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.33 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.33 BB
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: 9.33 BB, between UTG and Hero.</font>

Should I fold the river?

Re: Calldown with 99
 

At first glance I don't really like playing it so passively, but it's tough to find a spot to get a raise in. I think calling pf is fine with such a passive raiser and so many callers. Actually, I think a c/r on the flop is the way to go, then bet out the turn. On the river, you beat almost nothing, so as played I think a fold is fine.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

Yes, you don't beat anything besides lower pocket pairs and this type might not even raise with those preflop nevermind bet the flop, turn or river with them.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

We have the worst hand/worst draw, best/best, or one or the other and no way of knowing which. With the w/w we get reamed hard. With the b/b we pick up the pot right there on the flop collecting no further bets. With one or the other we are oop and completely in the dark in a reversed IO situation, donking diamonds and getting raised or checking blanks and missing bets.

Bloating this pot can't be good.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

.66? I fold the turn.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

im folding river and calling a diamond one

Re: Calldown with 99
 

I'll fold the river.

He's pretty passive and raised UTG, so his range is pretty tight (Ax, big pairs) unless we have a read on his open-raises (lots of 50/10 raise 64s preflop and open-limp AKo, that's true). So he has a better hand in the flop than 99 the majority of the time, possibly a better diamond draw, a c/r is spew IMO because we'll win when we hit, and not always.

If the river is a diamond I think bet/folding against a very passive player is OK, but I see merit to c/c also, because I don't trust fish since sometimes they play non-nut straights in 3-flush boards for 8BB, so if he has AA he's popping a 4-flush river more than 0% of the time.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

no one has mentioned ne math somehow, it all depends on if we think our diamond draw is live or not. Lets approximate its good 1/3 of the time for this sake, it may be less. And say our 9's are good like 1/8 the time. We need to add up our chances of winning the pot when we hit and how much we lose if we dont, this is simply a math problem using ranges.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

he is very passive postflop, thats why i gave my estimates pretty low here.

Re: Calldown with 99
 

Super easy river fold.