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MattGN 11-26-2007 09:55 PM

How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t1900)
UTG (t2700)
UTG+1 (t1910)
MP1 (t2330)
Hero (t4240)
MP3 (t1670)
CO (t1870)
Button (t1790)
SB (t1590)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t120, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t420) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t420) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t120</font>, Hero calls t120, SB folds.

River: (t660) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t175</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t835


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Should I have reraised on the turn? I didn't feel any other card could hurt me in any way, and if he hits a full house I think I would have paid him off anyways.

raze 11-26-2007 10:01 PM

Re: How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
I would bet the flop. You might be able to take it down right there, but if you get called you still have a very strong hand (12 outs to the nuts, possibly 3 more outs for your Ace).

Turn call is ok, I think I'm 50-50 on calling or raising here. If you think he's slowplaying a set or something, raise for sure, otherwise wait till the river to raise for maximum value.

NH

MattGN 11-27-2007 01:44 AM

Re: How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
Was the 175 too much like a value bet? I mean thinking back, if he did have a set I should have bet half the pot instead of 175?

Lansingg 11-27-2007 03:25 AM

Re: How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
I dont think you could have extracted any more money unless you threw a smaller bet on the river but it feels like the guy was trying to take the pot on the turn and had nothing

OziBattler 11-27-2007 03:35 AM

Re: How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
i would have bet the flop and raised the turn. With a big hand i want to play a big pot. It all starts with a flop bet.....as raze says if you bet the flop you can win unimproved...he probably folds underpairs and thats good for you since you dont always make ur flush.

i think it is results oriented to say you couldnt ahve extracted any more money here. with a PFR and KQx flop you'd expect him to have some sort of made hand.

tarheeljks 11-27-2007 04:45 AM

Re: How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
def bet this flop and don't be shy about getting it in. you have 12 outs to the nuts and your outs to the A are often going to be good.

as played generally raise the turn. we don't want to risk another diamond falling and he's probably not putting in anymore money w/o a flush.

JH1 11-27-2007 05:13 AM

Re: How Do I Maximize This Hand?
 
I bet about 3/4 pot on the flop to try to take it down in position. If you miss or an ugly card like K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] hits the turn you don't have to worry about putting in any more so the flop is a good spot to bet.

Then I probably 1/2 pot it on the turn and river depending on reads, if you can get more, then maybe 3/4 on the turn and 1/2 on the river.

As played I raise to ~500 on the turn and 1/2 pot the river.


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