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Shortcorner 11-19-2007 07:08 AM

Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
No reads but Villan has made no attempt thus far to pwthe bubble,


Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 4 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BTN: 1,755
SB: 2,965
BB: 5,860
Hero (UTG): 2,920

Pre-Flop: (400) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to 500</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BB raises to 1,800</font>

Hero?

RexWoo 11-19-2007 07:11 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
And the question is ?

You have QQ, not A5 or JT ! Push.

Shortcorner 11-19-2007 07:25 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
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And the question is ?

You have QQ, not A5 or JT ! Push.

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I did, but have to admit in game i considered folding. I must be worlds biggest nit.

ger664 11-19-2007 08:03 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
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No reads but Villan has made no attempt thus far to pwthe bubble

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Fix this first.

LordLinse 11-19-2007 08:11 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
Cīmon thats a dream situation. You get a raise with 3rd best hand and consider folding 4 handed?

Shortcorner 11-19-2007 10:04 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
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No reads but Villan has made no attempt thus far to pwthe bubble

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Fix this first.

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Yes, you are right. This is the nub of the problem. This guy was tight and i wasn't sure if he did this often enough with 88+ AQ+ to make his re-raising range wide enough. If his range is JJ+ to AKo, I'm behind his range and if we include AQs and TT we are flipping. If we included 88+ to his range i'm 60/40 ahead and is this really a spot where we want to gamble against the big stack.

In the absence of reads, clearly a push, anecdotely he was playing very tight. Will get PT and Pahud today [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

pokerbasti 11-19-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
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i cant belive that people think even for a second about folding, i call here with 45s

RexWoo 11-19-2007 11:12 AM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
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i cant belive that people think even for a second about folding, i call here with 45s

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4 real ? You should stop imo.

Dan. 11-19-2007 12:00 PM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
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i cant belive that people think even for a second about folding, i call here with 45s

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Stars name and playing times please.

LeadbellyDan 11-19-2007 12:02 PM

Re: Stars 16 QQ Bubble
 
I dont think this is as clear cut as people are making out. Pushing here is essentially the same as calling had he pushed as we have zero fold equity. Obviously this is the bubble and theres a short stack so we need to be calling extremely tight.

Villain has show a lot of strength compared to a normal open push as he's not only reraised but made it a small reraise which might be to entice us to call. If he'd shown this kind of strength and we hadnt already put in 500 then i'm pretty sure itd be a fold. I don't have SnGWiz but would be interested to see what it comes out with for this.


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