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loxxii 12-01-2007 11:07 AM

16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t2405)
Button (t4530)
SB (t1035)
BB (t5530)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t200.

Flop: (t650) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t600</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t2000</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2105</font>, BB calls t105.

Turn: (t4860) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t4860) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t4860

lucid75 12-01-2007 11:10 AM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
shove flop. Otherwise is fine.

kamel 12-01-2007 11:15 AM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
Unless you have very solid reads, this hand is standard as played. If villain hit a set or 2pair, well that's bad luck.

chrismystero 12-01-2007 11:28 AM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
[ QUOTE ]
shove flop. Otherwise is fine.

[/ QUOTE ]
Shoving the flop is a little steep, don't'cha think?

Hand seems pretty standard to me - I only raise to t275 preflop and then cbet a little less, but that's just me.

nh

AMT 12-01-2007 11:37 AM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
seems ok

MyGeneration 12-01-2007 11:46 AM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
Looks fine. Shoving the flop is pretty sloppy IMO.

warrantofice 12-01-2007 12:04 PM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
I dont' mind shoving the flop. although i do like it being called sloppy. The thing to think about though is when you push all-in here, you'll be getting your money in good or as a favorite probably about 85% of the time, but i'm just making that percent up. Anyways, if the BB decideds to call your 600t raise, then your in a really tough spot if an ace or heart comes off, even a King or Queen and he pushed there. That could make for a difficult call. I think getting your money all-in on this hand is better and then focusing on punishing that 1k stack. You will need to play a big pot against one of those big stacks soon, but why not wait till your in the money (which i know is a donkey thought) but that 1k stack will be forced to make a play really soon.

Little John 12-01-2007 01:49 PM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
i play it the same.

Kevin8423 12-01-2007 02:20 PM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
Shoving the flop is gross, I think you played it fine.

warrantofice 12-01-2007 02:21 PM

Re: 16s: How bad did I play JJ on the bubble here?
 
Why is it so bad to shove the flop? I want to play less donkey. please explain


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