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feelixthegreek 02-22-2007 11:01 PM

Smart push or overly frisky?
 
1/2 NL at my local B&M. $200 max buy-in.

The table overall features players who are poor at bet-sizing and are also passive postflop. No one has amassed a big stack as of yet. My image has been tight. I've yet to show a hand down, due to a couple of successful strong moves postflop balanced with a handful of loose calls that I ditched. Then came this:

EP raiser makes it $10, with three people calling. I'm on the Button with T6s (spades). With $134, I call $10

Five to the flop, which comes 6d5s3s.

EP raiser checks, one other check to an MP who makes it $25.

One fold to me. With $124 remaining and $75 in the pot, I push for my remaining $124.

Results are irrelevant, but I wonder if this was too thin a holding to move with, or is a flop like this exactly why I called $10 PF in the first place? Or is it too loose a PF call?

gir 02-22-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
Fold preflop.

Your flop play is fine, it is the best you can hope for next to TTT or 666.

cbboy 02-22-2007 11:12 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
Fold PF. You don't have a deep enough stack to play this type of hand.

As played, flop is standard I believe...

gir 02-22-2007 11:30 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
Fold a pair and a flush draw? For this little?

cbboy 02-22-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
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Fold a pair and a flush draw? For this little?

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Huh?!?!? Is that directed towards me? I don't think I said that anywhere...

feelixthegreek 02-22-2007 11:35 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
cbboy,

How deep should the game be playing for these kinds of PF calls to be profitable?

cbboy 02-22-2007 11:37 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
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cbboy,

How deep should the game be playing for these kinds of PF calls to be profitable?

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I would say that the MINIMUM would be 100bb effective stacks. I would even recommend more than that. I would say more closer to 150bb effective would be better

feelixthegreek 02-22-2007 11:48 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
That makes sense, but to go back to this particular hand, would pushing still be the move with, say, $250-$300, or would you leave some behind for the turn by making a bet size similar to the one I made ($125)?

This is assuming my opponent has a similar stack.

cbboy 02-22-2007 11:50 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
With that much behind, I would say raise to $100 - $125 or so and then push the turn. That would be my play, but I'm not sure if that is the best way to play it...

gir 02-23-2007 05:10 PM

Re: Smart push or overly frisky?
 
[ QUOTE ]
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Fold a pair and a flush draw? For this little?

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Huh?!?!? Is that directed towards me? I don't think I said that anywhere...

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Mah bad. Misread.


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