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PokerBob 12-29-2006 06:27 AM

I hate schneids
 
live 30/60.
i open in the hijack with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], schneids 3bets from the SB, BB folds, I 4bet, he calls.

flop HU: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
check, i bet, he calls.

turn: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
schneids bets, I.........

cartman 12-29-2006 06:52 AM

Re: I hate schneids
 
fold.

PokerBob 12-29-2006 07:03 AM

Re: I hate schneids
 
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what does he have that he plays this way?

cartman 12-29-2006 07:34 AM

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

PokerBob 12-29-2006 08:00 AM

Re: I hate schneids
 
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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

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so, he either has something huge here or air?

goofball 12-29-2006 08:05 AM

Re: I hate schneids
 
Is violence an option?

cartman 12-29-2006 08:07 AM

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

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so, he either has something huge here or air?

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No, I don't think so. He could of course have either of those, but I think something in between is far more likely. I suspect usually something showdownable that he figures to be ahead of your range but not something strong that he wants a bunch of chips to go in.

PokerBob 12-29-2006 08:22 AM

Re: I hate schneids
 
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fold.

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what does he have that he plays this way?

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I really dont know but you have shown considerable strength and he has to figure you have something with showdown value the vast majority of the time. If he wanted to blow you off of your hand I suspect he would usually choose a different line and therefore I think he is usually betting for value/to deny a free card.

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so, he either has something huge here or air?

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No, I don't think so. He could of course have either of those, but I think something in between is far more likely. I suspect usually something showdownable that he figures to be ahead of your range but not something strong that he wants a bunch of chips to go in.

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ok, but what is that? i 4bet preflop. that narrows my range a bit. he 3bet preflop vs. my open which, given my position, was not necessarily a steal. nothing makes sense for him other than something like 55 that doesn't want me to take a free river card, and against that hand i have to call.

Evigt_Drabbad 12-29-2006 08:30 AM

Re: I hate schneids
 
fish like to donkbet turn when they pickup a draw

PokerBob 12-29-2006 08:32 AM

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fish like to donkbet turn when they pickup a draw

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so, he has KcQc or some variation here?


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