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Isura 10-29-2007 11:48 PM

300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
Villain has tag stats. He's 3-bet a bit, and I decide to exercise some muscle. My image is pretty normal/good, I've just been stacking donkeys and stuff.

What is your line with
1) AA
2) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3) AKo
4) Do you like the flop check with any of these hands?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $17.50
BB: $137.18
Hero (UTG): $472.30
MP: $126.31
CO: $296.62
BTN: $96

Pre-Flop: XX dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $13</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $36.50</font>, CO calls $23.50

Flop: ($74.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $38</font>,

ikestoys 10-29-2007 11:51 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
1.) I 4bet more, bet flop and go broke 100%
2.) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I could c/r or lead... obv going broke on flop
3.) c/f
4.)see above

spivey 10-29-2007 11:52 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
I only like a flop check with AA. Going for c/r obv, and shove turn. AKo check is ok, but I'm c/f it.

75cc I'm b/3b overshoving.

spivey 10-29-2007 11:52 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
I think c/r with 75cc just leads to too many awkward spots on turn when he calls.

BalugaWhale 10-29-2007 11:53 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
a flop check with AA is so gross imo

ikestoys is right ont he money as usual

deaders 10-29-2007 11:54 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
I like check with AA sometimes, to cr and not fold on that flop.

75 Id usually lead

AKo cf

Isura 10-29-2007 11:54 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
I'm thinking its ok to check our whole range here, or bet it all. Also I think check/shove with all these hands is probably fine

spivey 10-29-2007 11:55 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
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a flop check with AA is so gross imo

ikestoys is right ont he money as usual

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Do you think he's checking behind JJ-KK, do you think draws are too big a part of his range, or do you think the c/r makes our hand look too strong?

Xanta 10-29-2007 11:56 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
1) I'm leading the flop and getting it in, if he called for set value god bless him (I'm assuming this is incorrect play 300bb deep against overpairs, haven't run the math). Don't really see the point to a flop check.
2) Interesting, since we really do want him to fold overpairs. The stack sizes are a little awkward for a bet/3bet (unless you lead flop small) I would consider check/shoving strongly since you have a whole lot of fold equity with such a massive overbet. Obviously the c/r size depends on his bet size, but whatever line makes him fold queens the most is best.
3) Most likely give up
4) Sure.

ikestoys 10-29-2007 11:59 PM

Re: 300bb 4-bet pot lets play poker!
 
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I'm thinking its ok to check our whole range here, or bet it all. Also I think check/shove with all these hands is probably fine

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check/shoving ak is 100% spew


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