Blind steal meets resistance, for the first time...
 

I ahve been stealing villains blind at will. He peels the flop and gives up on the turn on all previous steals.

I dont buy his flop lead, I have C bet every flop and turn so far. So he could easily c/r me if he has an A.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

Re: Blind steal meets resistance, for the first time...
 

fold the flop the first time and the second time.

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fold the flop the first time and the second time.

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You do realize on the turn that OP is drawing to the nut flush?

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I think kit realizes this. However, on the flop when OP gets 3 bet he's getting 9.5:1 with only a runner runner one card flush draw on a paired board. No shame in giving up there.

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I fold the flop the first time. Pots small, you have few to no outs if he has anything. If I have a read that he checks all of his made hands, then I just call down. Raising lets him off the hook too easily if he's bluffing.

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fold the flop the first time and the second time.

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You do realize on the turn that OP is drawing to the nut flush?

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check the flop again.

calling the flop in a small pot to draw to a backdoor flush and a possibly dead K is not a good play.

what the turn card is is irrelevant.

also, in case i didnt make it clear

1) fold the flop the first time means fold when he donks

2) fold the flop the second time means fold when he 3 bets.

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fold the flop the first time and the second time.

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You do realize on the turn that OP is drawing to the nut flush?

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check the flop again.



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I misread your answer, which I thought suggested folding the turn. I agree that he should have folded the flop.

Re: Blind steal meets resistance, for the first time...
 

what are you doing on the flop

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Are we buying that villain has an Ace when he donks the flop ?

I couldnt put him on an Ace, as with my 100% C bet vs him when blind stealing, he has the perfect opportunity to c/r me.
His propensity to peel flop then fold turn, had me thinking that with aggression I could take this pot down. Obviously I ignored what he was telling me and went with what I wanted to see.

I do now see that I should have folded to his flop 3 bet, thanks for the advice.

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Are we buying that villain has an Ace when he donks the flop ?

I couldnt put him on an Ace, as with my 100% C bet vs him when blind stealing, he has the perfect opportunity to c/r me.

I do see that I should have folded to his flop 3 bet, thanks for the advice.

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you are giving him way too much credit. most players arent smart enough to have this line of thought.

this sounds like a fit or fold type player, whos gonna bet if he has something and check if he doesnt. it doesnt matter what he thinks you have or what you've done in the past.

here, he's telling you he has something. believe him and fold.

Re: Blind steal meets resistance, for the first time...
 

Why does he need to have an Ace? Maybe he has a Queen and doesn't believe you have an Ace. I don't think it is very likely he can't beat King high.

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you said your stealing at will and he gives up on the turn, here he is not giving up so why with nothing do you feel the need to continue. Just fold and steal next round

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you said your stealing at will and he gives up on the turn, here he is not giving up so why with nothing do you feel the need to continue. Just fold and steal next round

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Flop I believe I should have given up, I dont think calling one on the turn is bad. Obviously I know I need a diamond to hit, without that, I am done.

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Are we buying that villain has an Ace when he donks the flop ?

I couldnt put him on an Ace, as with my 100% C bet vs him when blind stealing, he has the perfect opportunity to c/r me.

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Agreed that you're reading too much into this. Sure you've c-bet everything, but even if he's noticed that many players will continue to play their same old game regardless. In this case, he may even have noted that you c-bet alot, but figured that you will choke (they way that he would in your place) at the sight of those two fat Aces out there.

Hate the raise on the flop. The only good result you could have here is if he fold immediately having been bluffing. Once he fails to fold, his chance of not having an Ace is reduced dramatically. When he chooses to raise again instead of calling, once again we're looking at an even smaller chance he's on a bluff. If you can't fold to the 3-bet, the raise is terrible. The pot is small, and you've got almost nothing that can bail you out if you're as far behind as it looks like you are. Find a better spot to make these plays.