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Leader 04-05-2007 04:46 PM

***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
This thread is for discussion of the games on PokerStars and the players that play in them. There are two rules:

1. There will be no linking 2+2 screen names/real names to poker site screen names with out permission.

2. While discussing the play of certain players is ok, abuse is not. There should nothing derogatory at all linked to certain screen names. This includes "idiot" "moron" ect. Keep it to factual analysis of how the person plays and what adjustments you think should be made.

Enjoy!

milesdyson 04-05-2007 05:07 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
First in ladies.

You all know I am ysscky on Stars.

sethypooh21 04-05-2007 05:15 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Fire away at me, SN is obvious at PS 1/2-3/6 at present.

Guruman 04-05-2007 05:49 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
<---ThGuruman

ghostwriter 04-05-2007 06:13 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Ghostwriterx on stars

chezlaw 04-05-2007 06:19 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
chezlaw. Be gentle.

chez

DVDA4life 04-05-2007 06:45 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
mostly play at fulltilt now, but my stars name is atcart

danzasmack 04-05-2007 06:53 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
jw what the highest winrate you have for someone over a big sample for someone at these stakes in this games for any dataminers out there

WuTank 04-05-2007 07:42 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
my stars name is wutank ... i am not that creative with my names.Same goes with my nick for Kate`s playground.

Wu36 04-05-2007 08:53 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
WuBJJ on stars, trying to learn limit.

BrassMonkey 04-05-2007 10:10 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Great - glad this thing got started.

I'm looking through my stats, and the people to who/whom I've lost the most money/have given my the most problems are:

(1) sunbeam100 - this person has taken a TON of money from me, but the name doesn't even ring a bell, for some reason...

(2) TeeJayOrTJ - guess I didn't know he was 2+2 before I tried tangling with him - well, I certainly remember him wrecking my [censored] up - ugh

(3) silverlion99 - I don't feel like this guy is THAT good, but he's taken me for a good chunk of change. silver, if you're out there, you may be better than I know...

(4) Kid Canepa - this guy totally wrecked me the couple times I've played him. I'm not sure if it was a fluke, but the experience was horrible...

(5) dbeckham7467 - dude is in about 10 games at once on stars. he hasn't taken THAT much from me, but he definitely makes me uncomfortable if he's on my left.

(6) balvenie - dude loves to three-bet, and plays his hands VERY aggressively. I don't like playing with this mofo.

(7) sweetessence - seems solid - only way I'll play this mofo is if he's on my left and there are idiots in the game...

(8) marchinvest2 - I generally try to avoid any games in which this multi-tabler is found - it ain't easy...

That's it for now - I may have more names to add later...

-Brass

nickg1532 04-05-2007 10:33 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
lol ty brass for getting some discussion started. i don't think i have anything on any of the previous 2+2ers, but i have a bit on some of the guys you mentioned:

marchinvest, dbeckham = seem to be good from the few hundred hands i've played with them

some others that i see playing often:

jbarnes49222--pretty sure he is a 2+2er (not sure who), but over 600 hands he's 23/10, which is strange

GMHawkeye--seems pretty decent

jnfpoker--2+2er, started a thread last week asking for opinions. A few people noticed he could be pretty spewy, which i have noticed too. I think he's pretty good if he can control his tilt (i'm assuming the spewy hands were tilt).

Mandor_TFL 04-05-2007 10:47 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Lurker here, I agree Kid Canepa is very good, avoid at all costs.

Marchinvest is very solid.

Dbeckham is usually good but today saw him tilting after terrible luck against donkies. Sounds like my spewing when the same happens to me.

MacGuyV 04-05-2007 11:02 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Chez,
I'm sure you know your vpip/pfr #'s aren't as high as a lot of the other reg's. If you don't mind sharing, to what extent has this affected your swings, tilt (or lack thereof)?

chezlaw 04-05-2007 11:47 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
Chez,
I'm sure you know your vpip/pfr #'s aren't as high as a lot of the other reg's. If you don't mind sharing, to what extent has this affected your swings, tilt (or lack thereof)?

[/ QUOTE ]
I never used to tilt at all but recently I've been very bad (under control again now I hope). I don't think the tilt is related to my vip/pfr but its sure been responsible for a downwards 'swing'

Its tough to compare swings with styles I don't play but arent they simply related to win rates, so if I'm a 1BB/100 winner (which I used to be [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]) then I swing much the same as a 30/20 1 BB/100 winner?

chez

nickg1532 04-05-2007 11:51 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Chez,
I'm sure you know your vpip/pfr #'s aren't as high as a lot of the other reg's. If you don't mind sharing, to what extent has this affected your swings, tilt (or lack thereof)?

[/ QUOTE ]
I never used to tilt at all but recently I've been very bad (under control again now I hope). I don't think the tilt is related to my vip/pfr but its sure been responsible for a downwards 'swing'

Its tough to compare swings with styles I don't play but arent they simply related to win rates, so if I'm a 1BB/100 winner (which I used to be [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]) then I swing much the same as a 30/20 1 BB/100 winner?

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

chez,

care to share your vpip/pfr so i know what's considered "tight" these days?

Heisenb3rg 04-05-2007 11:51 PM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Vent:

I hate when people play mor than 5 tables @ 5/10.

reason:
There's often only 5-15 tables at one time. I hate playing with the same boring predictable TAG's who I barely profit off of over and over again. Makes for an uninteresting game. Poker is not only about making money believe it or not I also play for fun.
Here's a tip, stop being a pussy, learn how to play better poker and move up stakes.

chezlaw 04-06-2007 12:03 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Chez,
I'm sure you know your vpip/pfr #'s aren't as high as a lot of the other reg's. If you don't mind sharing, to what extent has this affected your swings, tilt (or lack thereof)?

[/ QUOTE ]
I never used to tilt at all but recently I've been very bad (under control again now I hope). I don't think the tilt is related to my vip/pfr but its sure been responsible for a downwards 'swing'

Its tough to compare swings with styles I don't play but arent they simply related to win rates, so if I'm a 1BB/100 winner (which I used to be [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]) then I swing much the same as a 30/20 1 BB/100 winner?

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

chez,

care to share your vpip/pfr so i know what's considered "tight" these days?

[/ QUOTE ]
21/16 and I've loosened up a bit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cardlogs32 seems very decent and I notice he is 21/16 as well.

chez

nickg1532 04-06-2007 12:08 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
ok, at about 24/17 even i'm beginning to feel like a nit these days [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] .

Leader 04-06-2007 12:10 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
21/16 and I've loosened up a bit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cardlogs32 seems very decent and I notice he is 21/16 as well.

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

What limit is this? 21/16 is very tight. If it's like 5/10, I'd have serious doubts about that being a winning style. Certainly not optimal IMO.

elffaw 04-06-2007 12:10 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
DullSetSound, don't play any more [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

nickg1532 04-06-2007 12:13 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
DullSetSound, don't play any more [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

i think i remember you. did you have a chick in your avatar?

elffaw 04-06-2007 12:17 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
yep. blue hair

chezlaw 04-06-2007 12:21 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
21/16 and I've loosened up a bit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cardlogs32 seems very decent and I notice he is 21/16 as well.

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

What limit is this? 21/16 is very tight. If it's like 5/10, I'd have serious doubts about that being a winning style. Certainly not optimal IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]
Limits 3/6 to 10/20, mainly 5/10
I believe you're wrong about it not being a winning style but right about it not being optimal.

I'm trying to loosen up but if that fails I'll dedicate the rest of the year to being tilt free and proving you wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chez

Leader 04-06-2007 01:01 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
21/16 and I've loosened up a bit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cardlogs32 seems very decent and I notice he is 21/16 as well.

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

What limit is this? 21/16 is very tight. If it's like 5/10, I'd have serious doubts about that being a winning style. Certainly not optimal IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]
Limits 3/6 to 10/20, mainly 5/10
I believe you're wrong about it not being a winning style but right about it not being optimal.

I'm trying to loosen up but if that fails I'll dedicate the rest of the year to being tilt free and proving you wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I guess I shouldn't say it's a losing style. You can win with it. Most of the people with those type stats in my big FT database, 1.5m hands, are losing and over all the group has a loss rate of .5BB/100.

chezlaw 04-06-2007 01:27 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
21/16 and I've loosened up a bit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cardlogs32 seems very decent and I notice he is 21/16 as well.

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

What limit is this? 21/16 is very tight. If it's like 5/10, I'd have serious doubts about that being a winning style. Certainly not optimal IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]
Limits 3/6 to 10/20, mainly 5/10
I believe you're wrong about it not being a winning style but right about it not being optimal.

I'm trying to loosen up but if that fails I'll dedicate the rest of the year to being tilt free and proving you wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I guess I shouldn't say it's a losing style. You can win with it. Most of the people with those type stats in my big FT database, 1.5m hands, are losing and over all the group has a loss rate of .5BB/100.

[/ QUOTE ]
How does that compare to 30/20?

chez

vmacosta 04-06-2007 01:30 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Chez, cardlogs and others:
Having v tight pf stats is +ev cuz it makes me try to take you off your blind and tilt when I can't.

MacGuyV 04-06-2007 01:31 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Cardlogs is never not playing. On the whole he knows what he's doing obv. He uses wa/wb in some weird spots though imo.

Leader 04-06-2007 01:36 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
21/16 and I've loosened up a bit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

cardlogs32 seems very decent and I notice he is 21/16 as well.

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

What limit is this? 21/16 is very tight. If it's like 5/10, I'd have serious doubts about that being a winning style. Certainly not optimal IMO.

[/ QUOTE ]
Limits 3/6 to 10/20, mainly 5/10
I believe you're wrong about it not being a winning style but right about it not being optimal.

I'm trying to loosen up but if that fails I'll dedicate the rest of the year to being tilt free and proving you wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

Well I guess I shouldn't say it's a losing style. You can win with it. Most of the people with those type stats in my big FT database, 1.5m hands, are losing and over all the group has a loss rate of .5BB/100.

[/ QUOTE ]
How does that compare to 30/20?

chez

[/ QUOTE ]

Edit: I'll open the database and post the numbers exactly.

Leader 04-06-2007 01:59 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
meh I have a bad memory.

Filtered for 4-6 handed

21/16 - -.90
26/18 - -.03
30/20 - -.63
36/20 - +.04
40/20/>2AF - -.02
40/20/<2AF - -1.18

marching_on_together 04-06-2007 02:10 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
cardlogs will make money but he is never someone i worry about as his tight by the book style makes him relatively straight forward to play.

HOWMANY 04-06-2007 02:49 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
cardlogs is world class at picking up a big hand vs my big but slightly smaller hand after I've been stealing his blinds all night and I think he's finally playing back at me which he never is. I think he's too tight but almost all the hands I have seen him play to showdown I thought were played pretty well, I certainly can't recall any I thought were just plain bad, and after I finish playing I can always find tons of hands I think I played bad.

When I was playing 5/10 out of boredom I think in like Fall or something I thought Teejayblah blah whatever was pretty tough and played well postflop so I generally didn't bother sitting at his tables.

I don't play that much so I don't know who else is a "regular" or not. I think there's some guy like dbeckham and marchinsomething that seemed to play okay, I didn't play many hands with them and the few I did play didn't stick out really, I just happened to notice them pop up on like all of my tables whenever I play.

milesdyson 04-06-2007 03:24 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
I figured I'd post stuff I have on certain guys (no datamining). This is all 5/10 on Stars.

cardlogs32 - 2526 hands. 22.80/16.23 (1.86/100)
chezlaw - 1814 hands. 17.75/14.06 (-4.13/100)
FlareMVP - 1449 hands. 21.39/15.25 (-0.8/100)
k345 - 1257 hands. 22.04/16.95 (4.85/100)
dr_kox - 1086 hands. 28.45/15.29 (-6.15/100)
Victorvdb - 1041 hands. 23.54/15.85 (-1.4/100)
imissparty - 1014 hands. 25.15/18.34 (-0.61/100)
DSPickle - 898 hands. 19/27/9.91 (-3.7/100)
sejtam - 819 hands. 25.27/19.17 (1.88/100)

Top 3 biggest winners in my 55k hand 5/10 database, obviously only for amusement purposes:

1. loravays - 294 hands. 65.65/32.65 (33.4/100)
2. kartracer63 - 357 hands. 31.93/12.89 (26.12/100)
3. Preusler - 148 hands. 50.00/35.14 (53.38/100)

Weir 04-06-2007 03:29 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
POKERSTARS GAME #9268706484: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($3/$6) - 2007/04/05 - 18:00:25 (ET)
Table 'Iclea' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: frostey ($159.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Kid Canepa ($384 in chips)
Seat 3: Weir ($109 in chips)
Weir: posts small blind $1
frostey: posts big blind $3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Weir [As 8h]
Kid Canepa: raises $3 to $6
Weir: calls $5
frostey: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Th 9s]
Weir: checks
Kid Canepa: bets $3
Weir: calls $3
*** TURN *** [Ah Th 9s] [Ac]
Weir: bets $6
Kid Canepa: calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Ah Th 9s Ac] [2d]
Weir: bets $6
Kid Canepa: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Weir: shows [As 8h] (three of a kind, Aces)
Kid Canepa: mucks hand
Weir collected $44 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $45 | Rake $1
Board [Ah Th 9s Ac 2d]
Seat 1: frostey (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: Kid Canepa (button) mucked [4c 4s]
Seat 3: Weir (small blind) showed [As 8h] and won ($44) with three of a kind, Aces


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justin 04-06-2007 04:09 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
yeh someone tell me why i suck so much: saywhat_agan. Im really debating quiting and ive wasted like 4 years on this stupid game. Although i play more then is humanly possible I go through swings that are insane. I'm at the point where im questioing EVERY single move I make so let me know how big a donk I am and what I can do. People stand out at tables to me Imissparty flaremvp, dr kox is aite beckham's solid.

BrassMonkey 04-06-2007 06:13 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeh someone tell me why i suck so much: saywhat_agan. Im really debating quiting and ive wasted like 4 years on this stupid game. Although i play more then is humanly possible I go through swings that are insane. I'm at the point where im questioing EVERY single move I make so let me know how big a donk I am and what I can do. People stand out at tables to me Imissparty flaremvp, dr kox is aite beckham's solid.

[/ QUOTE ]

Here are my notes on you, saywhat:

-Seems decent
-Gets a little spewy post-flop
-Seems willing to call down with any high ace hand, though, even when it's probably a bad idea
-Tricky player. Raised a limper with J8s pre-flop, then raised a flop of 7hTs2c, then check/checked a turn of Kd, then bet out on the river when an ace fell
-Tends to be too aggressive, but will stop being aggressive with nothing when he gets to the river, unless of course he thinks he can bet a scare card

I said "seems decent", so my impression isn't that you suck.

GMMigge 04-06-2007 06:53 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Hardly surprising for you who have met me, but I'm GMMigge on Stars, playing 5/10 mostly but have dropped down to 3/6 lately since I've run rather bad.

I'm actually in UK right now so I don't have any stats here. But if I remember correctly I think I've lost some money to that beckham guy. But I don't know if I've felt really pwned by anyone special, just occassionally perhaps. Will get back to this when I come home.

What I know though is that I'm really too tight and to some extent a little too predictable, which I know some have tried to take advantage of. I think I've improved lately though, but I still need to play more hands.

BrassMonkey 04-06-2007 06:59 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
Oh yea, I don't like playing Heisenb3rg or Chezlaw, either. I usually just run away when you jokers enter my game [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

chezlaw 04-06-2007 07:21 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
dbeckham7467 is a pain but spewy.
tableATM has been around a lot recently and is a pain.
supadoops was goood but been scared off to 10/20 so don't see him much.

Leader:
[ QUOTE ]
Filtered for 4-6 handed

21/16 - -.90
26/18 - -.03
30/20 - -.63
36/20 - +.04
40/20/>2AF - -.02
40/20/<2AF - -1.18

[/ QUOTE ]
Thanks. 36/20 it is [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] - I assume that's small sample size, not many 36/20ers.

I think ~26/18 is where I'd like to be but struggling to find the extra spots to play.

miles:
[ QUOTE ]
chezlaw - 1814 hands. 17.75/14.06 (-4.13/100)

[/ QUOTE ] you had me at -6 2 days ago so things are looking up, and you've improved from -3 to -2. The donks ran bad for once.

HoneyBadger 04-06-2007 08:01 AM

Re: ***Official Stars Regs Thread***
 
I'm zoijar on stars. I know lots of people seem to think I suck short handed but mostly have no idea how horrible I've been running lately. And there was some tilt because of that. My reputation is probably better at full ring... I guess.


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