cappuccino, foldaccino
 

foxwoods 5/10 limit, 7 handed
original raiser is TAG; 3bettor is loose, but doesn't 3bet light. I give him AQ+, 99+ maybe some AJs
BB's a fish pretty much.

Hero is in the SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, fold, CO 3bets, button folds,
Hero CAPS, BB coldcalls 3 more bets, others call

Flop (4 players, 16 sb)
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hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, CO raises, hero folds

Re: cappuccino, foldaccino
 

nh

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I say good fold

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cap pf isn't necessary but is fine

flop is nice fold

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I hate this situation having AKo in the blinds after it gets three bet. I guess raise>call>fold.

Nice check/fold on the flop.

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I hate this situation having AKo in the blinds after it gets three bet. I guess raise>call>fold.


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I guess the arguments for not capping might be that UTG+1 could define his range a little better - does he cap (JJ+,AK) or just call ? And against those guys I probably have 1/3 pot equity on average (stove anyone?) but calling gives BB more of an opportunity to coldcall and pad the pot. I didn't think he'd oblige us for 4 bets.

Also is it more likely to be called down by a big Pocket pair if I flop TPTK ?

And then "METAGAME"...

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Re: cappuccino, foldaccino
 

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I guess raise&gt;call&gt;fold.

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This is quite often wrong and we really need to think about what's happened so far up until this point.

There is nothing wrong w/ capping AK in the SB, just like there is nothing wrong w/ calling or even folding if the conditions are right.

MoM gave us some info and we should use it.

first raiser is a TAG, so figure a range. More importantly, the 3-bettor is loose, but "does not 3-bet light"... so put him on a range.

If his range is AJs+, TT+, AQo+ (reasonable for a 7 handed 3bet vs a TAG initial raise) and initial PFR has a range of : 77+,ATs+,KJs+,QJs,AJo+,KQo, then we look like so:

74,122,128 games 71.939 secs 1,030,346 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.648% 24.18% 07.46% 17925415 5532688.83 { AKo }
Hand 1: 37.493% 31.71% 05.78% 23502653 4287677.83 { TT+, AJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 30.860% 27.64% 03.22% 20486888 2386946.33 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo }


So while out equity is just OK here, it is not great and worst of all we are out of position. Also capping here doesn't give us too much info regarding the first raiser unless he folds (which is always beneficial though).

In a situation like this, there is nothing wrong w/ just calling here and I do it often is the situation/action is similar to what was presented.

Re: cappuccino, foldaccino
 

Good analysis, thank you. I really think I am capping all the time just because calling feels weak and folding (which I probably do more often than calling) is only right against the tightest of 3bets. I think the ranges given in this here are pretty accurate and it sure makes calling look like a viable option in this spot.

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I think you can let it go pf. You will be OOP, your equity is bad and AK is a reverse implied odds hand in this spot. If BB calls a lot the cap becomes much more reasonable, since ur relative equity will improve.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

47,027,828,232 games 75.532 secs 622,621,249 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.467% 29.18% 03.29% 13722214800 1546250998.00 { 88+, AQs+, KQs, AJo+ }
Hand 1: 37.267% 32.85% 04.42% 15448696452 2077298020.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 2: 30.266% 24.09% 06.18% 11326749936 2906618026.00 { AKo }



Anyway as played I think u can fold the flop.