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Maulik 08-27-2007 02:04 AM

it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
the stack-sizes are awkward, how do I avoid?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $426.40
BB: $233.15
Hero (UTG): $197.00
CO: $189.65
BTN: $284.15

Reads: <font color="blue">none, c/r turn on the assumption he bets too much</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, CO calls $17.00

Turn: ($51) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $21.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $78.00</font>, CO calls $57.00

River: ($207) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $95.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $87.65
Uncalled bet of $7.35 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $382.30 ($3 Rake)

thedustbustr 08-27-2007 02:10 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
er, think about the cr before you do it? and decide to lead instead?

don't like the flop pot here either, way more likely to fold worse than an ace, it focuses his range on hands better than yours.

Maulik 08-27-2007 02:15 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
his flop calling range on this board is wide

eigenvalue 08-27-2007 02:15 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
I don't C-Bet here OOP, because you got a RIO flop. The c/r on the turn is even worse, because of RIO. Try to reach a cheap showdown, if that's not possible, get away from this hand whenever it's too expensive.

luckybacon 08-27-2007 02:17 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't C-Bet here OOP, because you got a RIO flop. The c/r on the turn is even worse, because of RIO. Try to reach a cheap showdown, if that's not possible, get away from this hand whenever it's too expensive.

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i think this should be a cbet every time most likely. turn c/r isnt very good though. probably just lead turn. we arent worried about getting away from it right now, we are trying to extract value

Maulik 08-27-2007 02:19 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
RIO?

This line seems to be really good against players who play draws too aggressively

0evg0 08-27-2007 02:30 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
[ QUOTE ]
I don't C-Bet here OOP, because you got a RIO flop. The c/r on the turn is even worse, because of RIO. Try to reach a cheap showdown, if that's not possible, get away from this hand whenever it's too expensive.

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you're not a mod of a nl strat forum are you?

nuggetz87 08-27-2007 02:32 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
[ QUOTE ]
RIO?

This line seems to be really good against players who play draws too aggressively

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if you put him on a draw then c/c turn c/c a dry river right? c/r just risks too much - if he has a real hand you're toast.

i'm in the bet turn camp though most of the time.

mdkrahn 08-27-2007 03:13 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
i think after the turn,

c/c river &gt;&gt; shove

beachbum 08-27-2007 04:32 AM

Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk
 
wtf is RIO?

Also, is the river for value? I don't see alot of hands you beat that have gotten this far. C/c'ing turn isn't horrible if you're trying to control the pot size and induce "value bets" from weaker hands.


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