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sMethod 11-13-2007 07:42 PM

2-1 Maximizing value on the turn
 
This hand is vs a good thinking some what loose aggressive player that I don't have that much history with.

The question is how do you like to extract value from your opponents with a hand like this on the turn. Our flop c-bet is protecting the strength of our hand to a degree but the turn bet will certainly set off some alarm bells in his head that I'm not just betting ace high any more and he better have a good hand if he wants to continue.

Who bets who checks, would you ever play this hand differently depending on what type of player villan is, whats you plan for the river if you check and the board paired and he bet into you.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $255.95
BTN: $210.80
SB: $214.75
BB: $233.15
UTG: $203.05
Hero (MP): $195

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($17) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, BB calls $12

Turn: ($41) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero?

EasyAs1-2-3 11-13-2007 07:46 PM

Re: 2-1 Maximizing value on the turn
 
It's player dependent, but I'm leaning towards sticking another smallish bet in (~$30, maybe less). If you know he's real aggro or have high river AF stats on him I'm checking behind to get him to fire river. He could figure you for c-betting w/ nada thus seeing a good spot to steal.

orange 11-13-2007 07:49 PM

Re: 2-1 Maximizing value on the turn
 
has he seen you double barrel before?

sMethod 11-13-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 2-1 Maximizing value on the turn
 
[ QUOTE ]
has he seen you double barrel before?

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No not yet we only have about 30-40 at this point.

Casper05 11-13-2007 08:03 PM

Re: 2-1 Maximizing value on the turn
 
whatever you would bet/fold with for value.

cs3 11-13-2007 08:06 PM

Re: 2-1 Maximizing value on the turn
 
bet small like 20-25ish for several reasons:
1) let him think he has some fold equtiy. maybe a random pair plus heart will try to shove on you
2) lots of mid pairs will still call a weak bet, with or w/o a heart
3) he might still try to draw to a strt with like 56s, A6s etc
4) if hes a donk with a set/straight/2 pair, hes likely getting it all in anyway, so might as well maximize vs the rest of his range


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