Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

This didnt really bother me in this context b/c I planned on using it to my advantage image-wise, but there would be times when I would slapaho from the five seat for doing this [censored].


My question to the forum is, and especially TT and RR, -what's the best way to approach the dealer and the floor about this, and what reaction should I expect/get?

I raise AA pf, two callers, flop is 995, I bet pot, both call, on the turn a 6 falls and the BB donk bets half pot, and I think for about 15 seconds and muck after some obvious confusion/frustration, and the player behind me folds too. No strat plz, BB was nit/MP played very well and gave me a lot of respect. I digress. I mucked my cards as I always do, facedown towards the muck. Dealer stops my cards as if he's going to palm them (facedown) and slide them into the muck, then peeks at them. WTF. LOL. And yeah, it was at Winstar. I really wanted to let the goofy aggro players know I mucked aces so my initial reaction of pissed was calmed when I knew I could use it to my advantage, but wtf, this has to be one of the most unprofessional things that a dealer can do (and it was a big pot, like 100 BB's on the turn), what would you have done, and what would you have expected to happen?



-Tex


edit: I dont think i'd ever seen him before, but it occured to me it might have been the winstar dealer on 2p2 who likes to jock my nuts when I talk [censored] about [censored] star.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

Say excuse me, please don't look at the mucked cards.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

So it wasn't the dealer I was thinking of then who did that to me. There is a bit of a problem with that at Winstar, though...

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

"In Oklahoma, peeking at mucked cards may be acceptable, but in Texas it is a capital offense."

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

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Say excuse me, please don't look at the mucked cards.

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You also might want to mention it to the floor. I have no idea how big of a room this is. If it is a very large room the floor probably doesn't supervise the dealers and you would need to mention it to a shift supervisor or a dealer coordinator.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

When somethin' like this happens to me, I'll usually say "man. . .party foul" (i also use the line when somebody invokes the i wanna see the hand rule). It keeps it light while getting the point across to the dealer.

If I think it's somethin' systemic, then I would go to management and try to do some notifyin' at that level.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

The thing is I can't figure out why a dealer would want to look. I couldn't care less what your crads were. I have players push me their cards and tell me to look, and they get all pissy when I just slide them into the muck. I tell them that I was afraid if I looked that someone else would see them, but I really want to tell them that i couldn;t care less.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

This has never happened to me that I know of, and I have played a lot of live poker. It would definately irritate me though.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

There is a dealer at the suncoast that does it all the time. It doesnt bother me because if the hand he looks at hits then he'll give that player a crooked smile which works out to my benefit. Just call me MR. Brightside. Mind you hes looking at the cards before the flop not really after folds.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I had this happen to me once when I made a pretty big bluff, I guess the dealer was just curious about the hand.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I had this same thing happen to me at Paris in LV this weekend. I didn't really care about it. BUT...There was a time in Oceans 11 where one of the players asked the dealer what the mucked hand was and she showed him (and just him). Neither myself nor the player asking to see the cards were in the hand. That one really ticked me off. I asked the dealer to not do that again.

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Plenty of regulars know plenty of dealers. It would be simple to get the info of a mucked hand should the dealer be allowed to continue this.

Tactfully remind him to protect your mucked cards, and not view them. Also, save yourself the tip on the next pot he pushes to you. (I tip well for great service, so there has to be measures for the opposite.)

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I would look the dealer in the eye and ask him "what the h&ll are you doing?". This is so wrong as to be pathetic. You need to nip this in the bud immediately.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

Its a little odd-but wtf mention it to the dealer and go on with the hand-did he tell anyone. The stupid brewha ha's that come up in every session are enough to make me want to quit the game- In his interview on rounders the poker show Bobby Hoff said its getting so he cant find a game at the Commerce because of all the A-holes. Have a dealer premature the flop when you flop top set and see how you act-most people have no class at all

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I would have no problem telling the dealer that he will never receive a tip from me again.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I have this happen to me often in Australia. So often I thought it wasn't a big deal.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I actually probably wouldn't care, but having said that it's very uncool for a dealer to do.

As a dealer, if I were also a player I'd want to see every hand mucked. One benefit of being a dealer if you're a player is that you get to see a lot of poker being played. The more you know, well.... the more you know.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

Tell him that if he ever does that again, you will kill him.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

1) Stand up

2) Remove shirt

3) Remove pants (but not underwear)

4) Find the nearest door frame

5) Hang on said door frame and tell everyone within ear shot that if the dealer looks at your mucked hand again he will be your date to the gun show.

the whole scene should look something like this:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...dMan/week2.jpg

hope this helps,
Steve

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

I've had this happed to me before. I don't care, honestly. It's a compliment. To be fair, it may more tolerable if you know the dealer by name, and the dealer knows your name before he or she does this. That was the situation when it happened to me.

We're playing in Bobby's room.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

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what would you have done

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The only person with a proven solution to this situation is Al_Capone_Junior.

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5) Hang on said door frame and tell everyone within ear shot that if the dealer looks at your mucked hand again he will be your date to the gun show.


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Dare to dream.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

dealers have done this to me as well at Winstar. Hate it, but I don't want to make a fuss either.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

Depends, kinda.

If its any reasonable mid-to-high-limit game being seriously played, automatic KITN.

If its a socialable 4/8ish donkpartyfest with people asking the dealer to sweat cards, talk of halfpots for the dealer, drinking, etc., meh, no big deal at all.

In Tx's case, KITN.

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

It is the dealer why should you care. I would understand if a player did it. Did the dealer tell your hand? Too many peeps get too strung out over ettiquette!

Re: Wow, dealer looks at my mucked hand. Thoughts?
 

If I choose not to give information, I choose not to give information. Simple.