Is c-betting extracting max???
 

Assume standard Stars Nits.
Max value lines please..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($530.45)
Button ($358.95)
SB ($392)
Hero ($395.60)
UTG ($432.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $48</font>, MP calls $28.

Flop: ($98) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($376.10)
CO ($394)
Button ($665.20)
SB ($458)
BB ($317.70)
Hero ($614.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls $14, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($36) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($515.10)
UTG ($520)
MP ($542.60)
CO ($401)
Button ($415.50)
Hero ($622.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $20.

Flop: ($52) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

Hands 1 and 2: I have the deck crippled
Hand 3: He's folding 90% of his hands (His range is small PP's, rare SC's)

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

check 1
prob bet 2, 3

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

1. I think bet flop check turn. I think he floats with most pocket pairs on the flop.

2 and 3 bet bet bet

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

1. I like 60ish on the flop, and then check the turn behind...

2. You have to bet here, around pot-size. There are straight draws, gutshots, JJ-99, Qx.... just bet and hope for a call.

3. Given your read, can you think of a way to get value on the turn if you check the flop through?

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

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3. Given your read, can you think of a way to get value on the turn if you check the flop through?

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I think if either of us improves I can extract a bet or two.

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

i think it depends a lot on what type of thinking levels the villain is on in each hand. example, he is looking to make big calls down, then lead with kings full on all 3 streets. or if he is one to bluff if you check to him, then check call. simple concept but worth stating.

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

Hand 1, more preflop. Hand 3, less preflop usually. As played I just bet most of the time on all boards.

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

Bet, bet &amp; bet...

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Hand 3: He's folding 90% of his hands (His range is small PP's, rare SC's)

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Nice villain!

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

The only one I would ever check is hand 1. Also, do you 3 bet that small preflop with a lot of hands? Seems kind of strange. I think not betting the last 2 hands is pretty garbage though vs these passive players. What makes you think you can get any more money out of these guys if you check the flop?

Re: Is c-betting extracting max???
 

I should add that while I would check hand 1 vs some people, I would never do it here since he peels a lot of PPs when you Cbet the flop. I would check the turn if he calls, and obviously bet the river if he checks back the turn.