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furfur 11-09-2007 04:33 PM

can you lay this down here?
 
500+50 live shoot out tourney. 120 entrants. top two from each table advance to next heat. 8 left at our table. blinds 50-100. I've been very, very tight. Villain has been TAG. I'm UTG+1 w/ AKd and make it 300. He makes it 600 on button. I've seen him raise preflop in position and laydown to reraise and also call reraise w/ 8,7suited but never has he reraised preflop in 1.5hours playing together. Can I really lay this down given stack sizes despite the fact that min-reraise against my image is an incredibly strong line?

the_doantster 11-09-2007 05:12 PM

Re: can you lay this down here?
 
i don't see any stack sizes in your post.


furfur 11-09-2007 07:16 PM

Re: can you lay this down here?
 
sorry...i have 2300 and he has 3300

Luxoris 11-09-2007 07:58 PM

Re: can you lay this down here?
 
If youre laying this down what kind of hand are you waiting for? Youve been "very very tight" and villain doesnt yet know if youre TAG or weak-tight, so I dont think the nearly min-raise screams AA,KK. OOP will make the flop tough without TP, but getting 3.5:1 isnt this a no brainer call?

pokeriseasy 11-09-2007 08:11 PM

Re: can you lay this down here?
 
I don't fold AK for 23bb unless there is insane action, and this certainly doesn't qualify, definitely shove, if he has AA or KK, sobeit.

furfur 11-09-2007 08:40 PM

Re: can you lay this down here?
 
I shoved. Maybe i'm being results-oriented but I think in a vacuum shoving is definitely the right play. But given my image and what we know about villain, his minraise screams aa,kk, or maybe qq. You have to put him on a range of hands and I just don't see many other hands that would justify a minraise by a TAG against an early raise from a tight player. I STILL SHOVED and puked when he flipped over AA.


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