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Kevmath 04-18-2007 07:38 PM

WPT Borgata Open thread
 
Time for another WPT broadcast, featuring this final table:

Mark Newhouse 7,025,000
Anthony Argila 3,000,000
Chris Bell 1,200,000
David Sklansky 840,000
Blaise Ingoglia 700,000
Chris McCormack 665,000

EC10 04-18-2007 09:19 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
this fat amateur is a huge tool

JackWhite 04-18-2007 09:45 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
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this fat amateur is a huge tool



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If you check A-K everytime you miss, it is going to be a long night. Not sure how he made it this far playing that weak.

agent_fish 04-18-2007 10:46 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
I don't see why Mike Sexton is making such a big deal about Sklansky going all in with 55 after getting re-raised. It was 3 handed. It's tough to lay down a pair when the blinds are so big. Villian could easily have been re-raising with Ace-big.

gobboboy 04-18-2007 10:56 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
Fwiw, his 55 was a trivially easy laydown.

McGinty 04-18-2007 11:00 PM

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I don't see why Mike Sexton is making such a big deal about Sklansky going all in with 55 after getting re-raised. It was 3 handed. It's tough to lay down a pair when the blinds are so big. Villian could easily have been re-raising with Ace-big.

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He also questioned Sklansky for moving in w/66 when he was desperately short-stacked. What is Sexton advocating? Fold 66 with 6-8 BBs left (maybe less)? He had enough chips left to fold 55 there so a laydown is possible, but is it correct to assume you are up against an overpair?

In both situations, Sklansky would have been last to act after the flop so the stop and go wasn't an option (I don't think Sklansky had enough to push someone off the hand on the flop anyway).

Again, what is the right move according to Sexton? With the chip stacks plus the insane structure, is there anything you can do other than just stick it in preflop?

Rushmore 04-18-2007 11:19 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
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I don't see why Mike Sexton is making such a big deal about Sklansky going all in with 55 after getting re-raised. It was 3 handed. It's tough to lay down a pair when the blinds are so big. Villian could easily have been re-raising with Ace-big.

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He also questioned Sklansky for moving in w/66 when he was desperately short-stacked. What is Sexton advocating? Fold 66 with 6-8 BBs left (maybe less)? He had enough chips left to fold 55 there so a laydown is possible, but is it correct to assume you are up against an overpair?

In both situations, Sklansky would have been last to act after the flop so the stop and go wasn't an option (I don't think Sklansky had enough to push someone off the hand on the flop anyway).

Again, what is the right move according to Sexton? With the chip stacks plus the insane structure, is there anything you can do other than just stick it in preflop?

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Sexton's overemphasized point was that you want to have at least SOME FE, whcih he does not in the hand with the 66.

What he failed to point out is that the more you let your stack dwindle and dwindle, the less chance there is that you'll ever conceivably be in a situation that might offer any FE.

Hollywade 04-18-2007 11:26 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
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He also questioned Sklansky for moving in w/66 when he was desperately short-stacked. What is Sexton advocating? Fold 66 with 6-8 BBs left (maybe less)? He had enough chips left to fold 55 there so a laydown is possible, but is it correct to assume you are up against an overpair?


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I couldn't figure out what the hell Sexton was talking about when Sklansky had the 66. Seemed like an obvious move to me in that situation.

The 55 vs 1010 surprised me a little bit though. I thought by just making a standard raise from the button, David would have easily been able to get off 55 facing a shove. As Sexton said at the time, the best case scenario for Sklansky is a coin flip and it's just as likely that he is crushed.

Hollywade 04-18-2007 11:29 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
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this fat amateur is a huge tool

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Agreed, assuming you're talking about Blaise, or whatever the hell his name was. Didn't really notice he was fat, but definitely a tool.

First he tries to donk off his whole stack with QJ. Then he hits his miracle river card and goes nuts.

"Game on now, big stack." Nice.

When I river the piss out of someone, I quietly drag the pot and try to win with class.

I've said it before and I'll say it again...I hate poker players.

Dima2000123 04-18-2007 11:33 PM

Re: WPT Borgata Open thread
 
Sexton seemed foolish when talking about the 66 hand. David probably wasn't making a move (he's be daft to do that with his chip stack), he was making a value shove. And when he made the comment that the worst hand won after 66 held up...that was just embarrassing.

As for 55, I don't know what David was thinking. He had to have at least 20 BB's left, IIRC. That was a bad time to put all the money in being slight favorite at best.


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